Full Version: Ssd Just As Bad?
I have been waiting on my SSD back pay to hit the bank, I received letter today that was telling me what I'll make and what benefits I am entitled to ect. I kept on reading and found that SSD cut my back pay all to pieces they had me down as still receiving workers comp for the last 3 years (hadn't seen a dime of comp in over 2+years)and deducted the excess that exceeded the 80% that I was originally making when I was working that I was a loud to make under SSD guide lines. Well they like to part with there money about as much as the VA, they had cut my back-pay down to 75% of what I was suppose to get and to beat it all they drop a screw job like this on me on a Friday when you can't get hold of a sole... Just like the VA they owe ya but looking for ways to keep it..Yog
Get what you can and appeal it
Man! That sucks!!
I think they do a Worker's Comp offset for Social Security. But you said that they had you down as receiving Worker's Comp for the last three years. Were you NOT getting it? If so - you can appeal the amount, and have it recalculated. I am not sure how long this will take though.
And it has been my experience that once SSA makes a decision, they somehow keep gravitating back to it.
Quite a few years back - they said my son had been over paid SSI, based on my income (that was "deemed" to him while he was under 18). But they based that decision on what they ESTIMATED my earnings were. They began taking $50 a month out of his checks.
I took in PROOF of my earnings. They told me that the estimates had been "confirmed" and they didn't know if they could change it.
???? How in the world can you CONFIRM an estimate??? And why in the world were they using estimates when they can pull up actual pay records?
Anyway - I finally got them to accept the proof - and they sent us a check for over $900 (money that they had taken away in error.
Guess what? The NEXT month - we got a letter that he had been OVERPAID - the EXACT amount of the check they had just sent us. So they didn't change SOMETHING in the record - sent us the check - and then considered it an overpayment.
It was an obvious error - but I didn't fight it back then. I just figured they would keep going through the same loop, giving it to us and then wanting it back. So I figured I might as well let them take it back then if they wanted it that bad.
Today - I woud fight it. Thank God for places like hadit and even the internet. Back then, you had to go to the library and look in the law books to find anything out.
Free
I think they do a Worker's Comp offset for Social Security. But you said that they had you down as receiving Worker's Comp for the last three years. Were you NOT getting it? If so - you can appeal the amount, and have it recalculated. I am not sure how long this will take though.
And it has been my experience that once SSA makes a decision, they somehow keep gravitating back to it.
Quite a few years back - they said my son had been over paid SSI, based on my income (that was "deemed" to him while he was under 18). But they based that decision on what they ESTIMATED my earnings were. They began taking $50 a month out of his checks.
I took in PROOF of my earnings. They told me that the estimates had been "confirmed" and they didn't know if they could change it.
???? How in the world can you CONFIRM an estimate??? And why in the world were they using estimates when they can pull up actual pay records?
Anyway - I finally got them to accept the proof - and they sent us a check for over $900 (money that they had taken away in error.
Guess what? The NEXT month - we got a letter that he had been OVERPAID - the EXACT amount of the check they had just sent us. So they didn't change SOMETHING in the record - sent us the check - and then considered it an overpayment.
It was an obvious error - but I didn't fight it back then. I just figured they would keep going through the same loop, giving it to us and then wanting it back. So I figured I might as well let them take it back then if they wanted it that bad.
Today - I woud fight it. Thank God for places like hadit and even the internet. Back then, you had to go to the library and look in the law books to find anything out.
Free
QUOTE (yoggie2 @ Feb 20 2009, 03:12 PM) 
I have been waiting on my SSD back pay to hit the bank, this I received letter today that was telling me what I'll make and what benefits I am entitled to. I kept on reading and found that SSD cut my back pay all to pieces they had me down as still receiving workers comp for the last 3 years and deducted the excess that exceeded the 80% that I was origanaly making when I was working that I was a loud to make under SSD guide lines. Well the like to part with there money abut as much as the VA, they had cut my back pay down to 75% of what I was suppose to get and to beat it all they drop a screw up like that on me on a friday when you can't get hold of a sole... Just like the VA..Yog
QUOTE (free_spirit_etc @ Feb 20 2009, 05:18 PM)
Man! That sucks!!
I think they do a Worker's Comp offset for Social Security. But you said that they had you down as receiving Worker's Comp for the last three years. Were you NOT getting it? If so - you can appeal the amount, and have it recalculated. I am not sure how long this will take though.
I think they do a Worker's Comp offset for Social Security. But you said that they had you down as receiving Worker's Comp for the last three years. Were you NOT getting it? If so - you can appeal the amount, and have it recalculated. I am not sure how long this will take though.
I haven't received comp in 2 1/2 years.I called my lawyer and he said the same thing it was all screwed up, he had got the same letter and he had gotten paid as well, I still aint got crap from them. He said they are saying I paid them back in full but i still owe them but they are going to pay me full bene's even though I am still receiving monthly $$1235.00 comp?? I have been on welfare for 2 years and haven't had a thin dime of comp or income in 2 and half as far as they are concerned, insane I just wish one thing would go right just one.... Rich
That REALLY sucks then!! The lawyer got paid way before you did? Geez...
Hopefully the lawyer can get this straightened out pretty quickly. And hopefully they can pay you what they THINK they owe you - and not hold the whole thing up while figuring the rest of it out.
I am appalled that people who make a living figuring these things out do it so poorly sometimes.
Similar to them thinking you were drawing Worker's Comp - when you weren't ---
Back when my son was under 18 - they did an offset for Child Support on his SSI. The Court records clearly showed that my ex was ordered to pay $237 per month and was paying $50 per month.
The print out each month showed:
Support Ordered - $237 / Support Paid - $50 / Arrearage - $187
Then it kept a running total of the arrearage.
Social Security sent us a notice that his benefits were being reduced based on the FULL amount of support - even the part that he wasn't getting.
I got print-outs from the court - took them to the office and SHOWED them - SEE!! He is NOT GETTING $237 a month. That is what is ORDERED! He is GETTING $50 a month. That is what is being PAID!
Even when I showed it to them in black and white - the worker kept telling me - But the $237 has been CONFIRMED! We have an employee whose job it is to go to the court house and CONFIRM these things. (I think they just pull it up on the computer now).
I eventually won - but had a hard time convincing them that what had already been "confirmed" was not true.
I think once and SSA employee "confirms" something - they don't even have to document much about it EXCEPT that it has been confirmed.
I was appalled that the employee whose JOB IT WAS to confirm these things didn't even know how to read the records at the court.
I have no idea how many children who received child support (but did not get the full amount) also had their benefits reduced because the employee only went by the amount ordered, and didn't even know how to look to see if the child had actually RECEIVED it.
But again - it is hard for them to see past what they have already "confirmed."
And again - I hope your lawyer can get this straightened out pretty quickly.
Which leads me to my next question - As your attorney was paid a portion of your back benefits -will his services include following through with this part at no extra charge, or will you have to pay more to get this settled?
Free
Hopefully the lawyer can get this straightened out pretty quickly. And hopefully they can pay you what they THINK they owe you - and not hold the whole thing up while figuring the rest of it out.
I am appalled that people who make a living figuring these things out do it so poorly sometimes.
Similar to them thinking you were drawing Worker's Comp - when you weren't ---
Back when my son was under 18 - they did an offset for Child Support on his SSI. The Court records clearly showed that my ex was ordered to pay $237 per month and was paying $50 per month.
The print out each month showed:
Support Ordered - $237 / Support Paid - $50 / Arrearage - $187
Then it kept a running total of the arrearage.
Social Security sent us a notice that his benefits were being reduced based on the FULL amount of support - even the part that he wasn't getting.
I got print-outs from the court - took them to the office and SHOWED them - SEE!! He is NOT GETTING $237 a month. That is what is ORDERED! He is GETTING $50 a month. That is what is being PAID!
Even when I showed it to them in black and white - the worker kept telling me - But the $237 has been CONFIRMED! We have an employee whose job it is to go to the court house and CONFIRM these things. (I think they just pull it up on the computer now).
I eventually won - but had a hard time convincing them that what had already been "confirmed" was not true.
I think once and SSA employee "confirms" something - they don't even have to document much about it EXCEPT that it has been confirmed.
I was appalled that the employee whose JOB IT WAS to confirm these things didn't even know how to read the records at the court.
I have no idea how many children who received child support (but did not get the full amount) also had their benefits reduced because the employee only went by the amount ordered, and didn't even know how to look to see if the child had actually RECEIVED it.
But again - it is hard for them to see past what they have already "confirmed."
And again - I hope your lawyer can get this straightened out pretty quickly.
Which leads me to my next question - As your attorney was paid a portion of your back benefits -will his services include following through with this part at no extra charge, or will you have to pay more to get this settled?
Free
QUOTE (yoggie2 @ Feb 20 2009, 04:03 PM)
I haven't received comp in 2 1/2 years.I called my lawyer and he said the same thing it was all screwed up, he had got the same letter and he had gotten paid as well, I still aint got crap from them. He said they are saying I paid them back in full but i still owe them but they are going to pay me full bene's even though I am still receiving monthly $$1235.00 comp?? I have been on welfare for 2 years and haven't had a thin dime of comp or income in 2 and half as far as they are concerned, insane I just wish one thing would go right just one.... Rich
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