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Troy Spurlock
From the ruling, and I believe this says it all (which is what veterans have been arguing all along):

Veteran's disability benefits are nondiscretionary, statutorily mandated benefits. A veteran is entitled to disability benefits upon a showing that he meets the eligibility requirements set forth in the governing statutes and regulations. We conclude that such entitlement to benefits is a property interest protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Sometimes it takes years to win a claim, but as proven here it is well worth it to continue that fight and never give up, never surrender to the incompetence and gross misanagement of disability claims by the VA Benefits Administration.

Troy Spurlock
Sorry...forgot to add a link to the court ruling:

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/nf09/nfaug09/...%20Decision.pdf
john999
We have to see how this decision is going to apply. Will courts be allowed to take serious action against the VA for denying due process? It will take some time for VA legal community to digest this. In the civil legal system when people are denied due process it is a big deal. I don't know about administrative law arena.
Troy Spurlock
QUOTE (john999 @ Aug 15 2009, 02:28 PM) *
We have to see how this decision is going to apply. Will courts be allowed to take serious action against the VA for denying due process? It will take some time for VA legal community to digest this. In the civil legal system when people are denied due process it is a big deal. I don't know about administrative law arena.


Administrative law concerns the power of an admnistrative agency, its process and procedures; which apparently the courts have been unwilling to address in ordering the clear necessary changes in order to better the VA claims filing process (as ruled here: http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_13045686); which, as I am sure you will agree, is broken and has been broken for more than 40 years.

Sooner or late, be it a court or the GAO itself, the VA will eventually be overhauled when it can no longer answer for the increasing backlog of disability claims and rising suicide rates linked to inadequate, improper or no care at all on the part of the VA of the nation's veterans.

Notwithstanding, this current case/ruling was not about the administrative law of the VA, but rather the fair and just interpretation and application of nondiscretionary statutory law (e.g. the Code of Federal Regulations and United States Code) concerning disability benefits (in part); and whether or not the misinterpretation and misapplication of those statutory laws was in fact a violation of the 'Due Process' clause. The court ruled it did, and in doing so clearly stated that veteran disability benefits and the applicaiton thereof are Constitutionally protected, and not at the discretion of the VA.

Additionally, this case showed a clear example of where the VA, through false documentation, established and facilitated a fallacious denial of the plaintiff's disability claim. This, to me, is another important part of this case that I believe will serve veterans well if used correctly.

It's no secret that the VA has general practictioners conducting the vast majority of C&P exams (except those requiring a specialist - e.g. psychiatrist for PTSD claims); moreover, they're given "read between the lines" instructions to document their findings of a 5-15 minute C&P that supports the VA's position, not the veteran's.

Case in point is the Vietnam veteran I am helping with his chloracne claim. He recently went to a C&P that was specifically for his left knee condition that the VA has been denying since 1970; but the general practitioner - i.e. not an expert in dermatology or chloracne cases as it relates to Agent Orange exposure - basically blew him off in regards to that chloracne claim.

As it was communicated to me, this 40 yr old something dr. made comments that his scaring has healed nicely and referenced his entrance examination record that referenced acne. There is a CFR that clearly stated that if a prior existing condition is made worse by military service, it can be service-connected. Clearly this too young of a doctor does not know this, otherwise he wouldn't have made such an unprofessional remark that had no relevance to the issue at hand.

Then when the veteran explained the scabs, puss, and sores caused great embarassment that he had to wear his hair long to hide it, the C&P examiner replied, "Oh, that was just the style back then." Another unprofessional remark...yet I'm sure the VA will appeal to his authority in continuing to fallaciously deny his chloracne claim (though the RO and BVA already stated on record he met the statutory requirements of presumption of exposure, admitted he was in Vietnam, etc.).

Long story short, this young gen. practioner acted no differently than a witness who was prep'd by counsel on exactly what to say and how to say it. The current case/ruling demonstrated that this is not beyond the VA since an official medical report was fallaciously altered in order to justify years of denials.

But you are right, it is too early to tell on how this case will work for other veterans. Nevertheless, this veteran finally received the justice he deserved; it's just too bad it took so long to get it. Moreover, it's terrible it takes a court to tell the VA they're wrong and get their act together.

The veteran I'm helping now, the VA has been blowing us off for the better part of 18 months; but once I sent a 156 page report to the Governor and Senator...he's now getting the C&P exams and a DRO review that she should have had more than a decade ago. Again, it takes another "higher authority" to get action...and it shouldn't have to be this way.
Pete53
Troy:

Thank you for a most excellent post.What makes it so good is the quote, the link and your narrative. I agree with you which makes it even better wink.gif
Troy Spurlock
QUOTE (Pete53 @ Aug 15 2009, 06:16 PM) *
Troy:

Thank you for a most excellent post.What makes it so good is the quote, the link and your narrative. I agree with you which makes it even better wink.gif


Thank you for your kind words.

Today I did a 23 min interview on a local non-profit station about trials and tribulations of veterans filing disability claims, how I am helping the veteran I spoke of; and it was a perfect oppurtunity to bring this case - just recently ruled upon - to the public eye a lot sooner than later (as I don't think we're going to hear about it on ABC, NBC, CNN or FoxNews).

It was the second time I was interviewed about the problems with the VA claims process...the first being here: http://willamettelive.com/story/Soldiers_r...with_VA121.html

When I get a copy of the televised interview on DVD, I'll have to upload it to my MySpace.com/support4veterans page.

Again, thank you...all of you and your continued service and support of veterans with your website and forum. Glad to be a part of it...hope I can do some good here.

T.S.
Pete53
I can't get the interview url to load.
Troy Spurlock
QUOTE (Pete53 @ Aug 15 2009, 07:47 PM) *
I can't get the interview url to load.



Google my name "Troy Spurlock" and Willamettelive and it should come up as the first hit.
Berta
I think if we dont use it -we will lose it-
meaning we need to cite this case every single time the VA denies us our basic rights.

We have the right to have our evidence proper considered and not ignored-particularily when we claimants spend thousands of dollars for IMOs only to have the ROs completely ignored (or trash) them.

The VCAA needs an amendment- the amendment I wrote and sent to Congressman Filner went no where-
upon receipt of a defective VCAA letter- the veteran or their rep should have the right to question it and ask that a cproper and compliant VCAA letter be prepared.

This is one of our basic rights- but when they send a piss poor VCAA letter ( as I got and my reps said it was compliant with the law but I proved it wasn't)the claimant MUST take them to task and certainly make this their first argument in the formal I-9-and charge them with non compliance with established VA case law and regulations- specifically the VCAA et al.

The so called C & P "Experts" often dont hacve a single clue on the disabilitiy they are C & Ping-as you said.

This is a violation of our basic rights too- and the most serious one in my opinion-as even if we rebutt a faulty C & P with medical evidence that would lead to overrule to examiner's conclusion- we are told we are not 'competent enough' to provide lay medical testimony or opinions even when the results of this evidence is prime facie evidence that supports te claim.

My award letter was faulty - the BVA awarded me in April and within 13 days the RO messed up the award and the statements of the BVA.
Since then I have had 3 or 4 letters from both Cong. Filner and Chairman Terry that I didnt acknowledge because I was hoping to thank them for VA's finally resolving my claim.
That didnt happen- it went from a supervisor to a DRO 2 weeks ago but I decided to reply to them with copy of this faulty award letter-
the letter's wording was either the fast and careless work of an untrained RO employee or a deliberate and outrageous attempt by VA to prevent me from obtaining about $92,000 they owe me.

Pending the response I get from the RO on my last letter to them I will try to incorporate this decision into my next statements to Cong Filner and Chair Terry- or better yet-maybe just ask the subcommittee to include this in one of their hearings.

To me a falsified document as within the recent CAVC case is as equally serious as the many other ways VA deliberately manipulates the evidence.
When a VA examiner opines incorrectly on a disability- (which is often totally overruled when the vets gets an IMO from a real doctor) this-in my opinion-borders on malpractice in many cases- as if they are not properly diagnosing the extent of a disability -for example- for a higher rating- how in the heck can they diagnose a vet in a clinical setting?

I could gripe all day------
I await a new PC- my PC man was out of the country and then came back to overwhelming other things and he has it almost ready to bring over and set up-
I cant use my Word program or 3 1/2 so I am on a hiatus and cant raise more Hell with VA until my new PC is here.

Last letters I sent to COngressman Filner and VA were done on a typewriter and it is awful-I forgot how to use it and they smply dont look as good as Word docs do.



Commander Bob
IMHO. The new C&P exam and the DRO review will just delay the denial letter the vet will get,sometime in the distant future. I do not know of a test that can actually show the dioxin level in one's system. I too have a claim for AO with acne proof from the army that dates way back to 1968. Of course, I got denied. Here is an interesting link. http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/8212/briefD2.html ( Para 4 is notable ).
Commander Bob
QUOTE (Troy Spurlock @ Aug 15 2009, 08:26 PM) *
It was the second time I was interviewed about the problems with the VA claims process...the first being here: http://willamettelive.com/story/Soldiers_r...with_VA121.html


Again, thank you...all of you and your continued service and support of veterans with your website and forum. Glad to be a part of it...hope I can do some good here.

T.S.




Thank you for all the help and support to our fellow vets, Troy.

I read your newspaper interview. You did well. However, the VA rep. shoveled out the "Same Old Stuff". First, the fire in the NRC destroyed mostly WWII records. I could go on and on. Your local newspaper is being played like a fiddle by the VA
john999
Yes, Bob, and the fire in St. Louis destroyed mostly Army records from WWII. The VA claimed my father-in-laws records were destroyed and he was a Marine. I think they lied because they were too lazy to look for his records. They also claim my father's records were destroyed except I have them.
Commander Bob
QUOTE (john999 @ Aug 16 2009, 05:28 PM) *
Yes, Bob, and the fire in St. Louis destroyed mostly Army records from WWII. The VA claimed my father-in-laws records were destroyed and he was a Marine. I think they lied because they were too lazy to look for his records. They also claim my father's records were destroyed except I have them.




Glad to hear that you kept your father's records, John. I got my dad's service records for him too.
cowgirl
The archives copied what records they could even after the fire and will release what they have for a fee. Did that with a relative and the pages show the edges of several pages burned, but amazing what data was legibile. That was our third attempt to request records for that person and was told the truth about them being in the fire. surprised us.

QUOTE (john999 @ Aug 16 2009, 04:28 PM) *
Yes, Bob, and the fire in St. Louis destroyed mostly Army records from WWII. The VA claimed my father-in-laws records were destroyed and he was a Marine. I think they lied because they were too lazy to look for his records. They also claim my father's records were destroyed except I have them.
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