I have questions about social security but I want to use the right terminology before I ask. Should I be applying for both SSI or SSD I am recieving VA benefits at 100% TDIU does this disqualify me for either or both? Also I have the paperwork for the determination division what should I say and how do I word it from my friends part. thanks

navy,
Since you are getting va compensation at 100 % that would make SSI
moot as part of the criteria is income based, so if you have an employment
record then you would file for SSD.
jmho,
carlie

I last worked May of 08, but have worked going back to 15yrs old. So I would think I have the work history I hope. thanks for your reply.

As long you have worked five years of the last ten. I believe that this is the formula. Check out the SSA web page it should explain there.

There are small gaps in there due relocation but I've worked what you have said five of the last ten. So I should not even send in the SSI forms?

navy,
Send in SSD form.
carlie

I agree with Carlie, file and let the SSA figure out the rest if you are unsure. Or contact a SS disability lawyer.

I will send in the SSD form. Thanks carlie and poolguy

navydoc2,
You might want to look at the following topic since it offers information about filing SSD. You might see something that could aid you.

http://www.hadit.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28488

My website could also possibly help.

I wish you a good journey.

fanaticbooks

SSI is basically welfare for the disabled. You have to be really poor to get it.

Yeah I don't think that I qualify, since I start getting TDIU starting 1 Oct. thanks books I will check that out.

navydoc2,
TDIU does not factor into SSD. My hubby gets TDIU as well as SSD.

TDIU is compensation via the VA, which is non-taxable by the way.

Since TDIU is compensation, it does not impact the SS side as income to be considered.

Others more knowledgeable could answer better, but just wanted to let you know that.

SSD is also disability which is a different criteria from SSI. What you are basically requesting from SS is that they provide you with your earned income from SS earlier than retirement age. If you are deemed disabled, then what you would have gotten at the legal retirement age will be provided under SSD's title until you reach retirement age. Then the bookkeeping is transferred to SS but the amount stays the same (just SS's accounting switches, not yours). (just a note: SS income, whatever form is subject to tax under specific to SS requirements)

Talk to your local SS office. They will be able to explain in better detail than I ever could.

I wish you success.
fanaticbooks

navydoc,
you must have earned 20 credits out of the 40 qtrs worked prior to becoming totally disabled.
In some cases "extra earnings" during military service may be applied to help qualify.

Military Service And Social Security
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10017.html

I stopped working June 08 but prior to that I worked the same job for four years and two of those years worked a second job, will SS go back to the date I last worked or start claim date from date of filing? My military service ended in 99.thanks allan.

In Missouri when you file for one your filing for both, because i didn't work for quite some time they owed me not only for SSI (one lump sum payment) but, also for SSD back pay. So I had 2 lump sums and then started getting the SSD which was pretty nice. Since its goobermint it should be the same in your state. Most have it also that when you file for SSD or SSI now that you also file for medicaid as one big process. I have a friend that didnt have enough credits to get the SSD and gets SSI but, its offset by his VA 100 percent because they call SSI earned income and SSD is not earned income. hope you get the SSD!!

That's correct...when anyone applies for SSD Social Security automatically checks to see if you qualify for SSI first. Here in CA a disabled person has to use up their state disability insurance before receiving SSD.

dh


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In Missouri when you file for one your filing for both, because i didn't work for quite some time they owed me not only for SSI (one lump sum payment) but, also for SSD back pay. So I had 2 lump sums and then started getting the SSD which was pretty nice. Since its goobermint it should be the same in your state. Most have it also that when you file for SSD or SSI now that you also file for medicaid as one big process. I have a friend that didnt have enough credits to get the SSD and gets SSI but, its offset by his VA 100 percent because they call SSI earned income and SSD is not earned income. hope you get the SSD!!
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I think I'll check they are separate here in OK. I know the paperwork came separately. The think that I can't figure out is why the determination department (where I send the paperwork) is in IL and not right here in the state I live in.

The Social Security Administration, being a Federal organization, is not bound by state lines, or state rules.
They contract out the "detemination" to different folks. The Social Security Administration uses, usually, a State agency to make the determination as to whether you are sufficiently disabled to be eligible to receive Social Security. Usually the State agency that they use is the same one that the State uses for their workman's comp cases or their disability board hearings.

For an example.......one that I will never get over simply because it illustrates the Federal Government as opposed to the state government so well:

Several years ago (around 20 years ago) I get this letter from the Federal Courthouse in Muskogee, Oklahoma. Seems I'd been chosen for a Grand Jury and they wanted me there in two weeks, for a session of court that is going to last for 4 months (on Grand Jurys, for those who don't know, you don't sit through a trial and then, when the trial is over, you reach a decision, but, instead, the prosecuting attorney presents evidence of a crime and you need to make a determination as to whether it is well enough presented (whether there is enough evidence) to warrant bringing the case to court and charging whomever with whatever......then, as a sitting Grand Jury, you go on to the next case and the next case and the next case, until the prosecuting attorney runs outta cases and evidence.

Anyway, as I said, I was called up to sit on the Grand Jury for four months in Muskogee, OK.
I live in Texas.
And, they don't have a very good sense of humor if you don't show up. Trust me on this, okay?

Good enough example?