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#1 tank

 
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 09:45 AM

Anyone please tell what a rating specialist do and How long to take to be rate.
Is there any other number to call or email. :huh: :angry: :angry: :angry:

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:24 AM

Tank,

I kind of question what the " Rating Specialist" do at The Appeals Management Center, as I am in the same boat as you are.

I will give you there email address:

amcquery@vba.va.gov

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:41 AM

Tank,

A "rating specialist" or otherwise known as a RVSR (Rating Veteran Service Representative) does exactly what the name implies, they rate claims. Their function is also the same at the Appeals Managment Center as it is at the local regional office. It all depends how backed up they are as far as how long it will take to make a decision.

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#4 carlie

 
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 11:02 PM

tank,
Welcome.
There is alot for you to study here:
http://ecfr.gpoacces.../38cfrv1_02.tpl
and here:
http://www.warms.vba...ov/M21_1MR.html

Have fun.
I know this will help a vet.
carlie

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 06:56 PM

Hello,

I'm still relatively new to Hadit.com, so have been busily reading as many of the posts as possible in order to educate myself on how the VA claim process works. ;)

I was able to learn enough to figure out how to submit a NOD letter/request for De Novo review by a DRO, so hopefully I'll hear back in a few months whether my appeal worked.

During my research, I kept seeing the phrase "AMC" or "Appeals Managment Center", and am curious as to what this refers to. Is this where the DROs in each region work?

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 11:04 PM

The AMC or Appeals Management Center is located in Washington DC and a few years ago it was set up so the BVA could develop a claim and than move it. However, they were sued and now they are used to make a claim ready for rating and in some few cases make a decision. Usually they remand claims after some development and the BVA instructs the RO of origin how to finish the claim.

I may not be exactly right but it has more or less become another holding pen or penalty box for Veterans claims that have been awaiting a decision for a long time.


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Posted 07 September 2007 - 09:27 AM

Pete,

Thanks for the quick reply. ;)

I think I understand what the AMC is now. Since I've asked for a DRO review of my denied claim, it looks like I won't have to worry about dealing with the AMC for now.

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Posted 07 September 2007 - 12:39 PM

Torvald,

No, you do not and I pray that you never do. I have been around the block now and being at the BVA and now The Appeals Management Center, do your best to stay at the Regional Level.

This is only my opinion, from my experience only.

Sometimes, moving forward cannot be prevented.

This was my case.

Keep in contact with the members on this site, and I trust that you will be able to accomplish this.

Always,

Josephine

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Posted 13 September 2007 - 06:53 PM

Hello Tank,
Anyone please tell what a rating specialist do and How long to take to be rate?

Rating Specialist, DRO's etc are used at the regional office(VARO)level to thoroughly examine the evidence you've submitted and distort it with enough fraudulent statements to it no longer resembles the truth.

Than they deny the claim based on the fraudulent interpretation.

If your lucky enough to receive an honest evaluation, it's highly likely the rating specialist won't be working for the VA very long.


How long "can" it take?
Long enough to watch your children grow & have children.


If your new to the VA war, it might help to keep in mind that you have to do business with an agency ran and operated by lyin, cheatin, bastards that make the mafia look like choir boys.

Rating specialists, DRO's etc, "may" say anything they want to deny your claim without fear of any repercussions. They do not have to sign their name to the decision or prove it was them that did the rating. They have "no" one checking their work for accuracy and are allowed to get away with it for decades.
If the Board of Veterans Appeals orders a remand for violations of law regarding your primary evidence, the Appeals center & Regional offices "may" completely ignore it for years, without any penalties or repercussions.

If your claim can't be thoroughly understood by a three year old, it won't get past most so called(specialists), at the DVA.



I know I sugar coated it some, but thats how it goes down at the DVA.

#10 Josephine

 
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Posted 14 September 2007 - 09:36 AM

Hi Allen,

I couldn't have said that better myself.

What a system???

Josephine

Edited by Josephine, 14 September 2007 - 09:37 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2007 - 01:25 PM

I hate to take up for the DRO but we have members who have benefited by having a DRO review.

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Posted 14 September 2007 - 03:40 PM

If you choose the DRO route ask for a personal hearing. It worked for me. Try and get up close and personal with these raters. Be nice and don't call them worthless SOB's or jump over the table at them. You have to appear humble. Even when your claim arrives completely &#@%&*up don't lose your cool. I have a claim in now and I just know that it is going to get screwed up, but I have to wait and work the knots out as I got through the appeals process.

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Posted 14 September 2007 - 04:35 PM

Allen
I had no idea that they had improved the rating specialists training to the level that you had mentioned. In the past the rating specialists only had to know 2 things:
1. How to delay a claim for months, or even years, preferably until the Veteran dies, and then blame it on the Veteran. Top VA management is then paid bonuses based on the number of claims delayed until death. Some rating specialists are even creative asking the Veteran to prove unprovable things. For example, require the Veteran provide medical documentation when the Veterans medical records were destroyed in the fire. When the Veteran is unable to do so, of course, the claim is denied. This is the fault of the Veteran for expecting the VA could process their claim in under 5 years.
2. How to deny a claim and then blame it on the Veteran. A rubber stamp, "Claim Denied", works very well here. In order to save ink, the VA is considering pre printing , "claim denied" on all future claim forms in order to save them the hassel of stamping them. Again, this is the fault of the Veteran because Veterans should be more patient in the denial of their claims, and understand that stamping "claim denied" on claims is very tedious work for a GS13 only earning $65 grand per year.
I think most Rating specialists are still using this old method of handling claims, rather than the new improved method you suggested.

Edited by chess, 14 September 2007 - 04:50 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2007 - 04:53 PM

Hello Pete,
I meant nothing personal.

Many are helped by honest employees at the DVA.
Many recieve honest adjudication from claims specialists.

Im not personally responcible for hiring contract thieves, that will say anything to cheat a veteran out of their earned benefits. I'm also not responcible of setting it up so that these crooks profit from their actions, their identity is conceiled and they are protected from prossicution.

Honest DRO's & Rating specialists in my opinion, take heat due to the fact that they refuse to clean up their profession.

Thirty years of having rating specialists process my claim, has left me with a different view of reality of what the Veteran actually recieves.

I find it best to tell it like it is, not how isolated insidents of how it should be, may help a Vet some day.

Can a Vet recieve due process & an honest review of their claim from a DRO or Ratings Specialist at the DVA? In my opinion the answer is yes, but "highly" unlikely.



Watch your six folks.



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Posted 14 September 2007 - 09:49 PM

Allan:

You have every right to speak out and I think that you have been treated horribly. I was just pointing out that sometimes it works and like Alex Humpfrey used to say here that the more bites at the apple the better the chances of winning


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Posted 15 September 2007 - 12:17 AM

Hello chess,
>I think most Rating specialists are still using this old method of handling claims, rather than the new improved method you suggested.

the old method for me was, having the Seattle VARO advize me to get a complete copy of my service records from National Records in St Lewis in order to prove my claim. So like a fool, from 1975 to 1997 I did so.

I finially recieved 13 months of SMR's out of a four year service in 1997.

In my claims folder, theres a copy of the Seattle VARO's request to St louis record center, to have "all Original" active duty records sent to them in 1977.

What a game. For decades I thought it was the Records Center that was lyin to me because I believed the SO's & the DVA.
I spent decades thinking I would actually get treated fairly by the people put in place to help. What a fool I was.

When your a nut case with a demented mind, it sure would be nice to totally excape reality sometimes, but I just can't seem to do that as well as our president does.

So some things continue to eat & eat at me.
Like watching loved ones suffer while theives get bonuses & raises.

All I can say is, shame on us as a people and as a nation for allowing the continued mistreatment of all US Veterans, old and new.....and their families.

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Posted 15 September 2007 - 02:25 AM

Hello Pete,

>Allan:

You have every right to speak out and I think that you have been treated horribly. I was just pointing out that sometimes it works and like Alex Humpfrey used to say here that the more bites at the apple the better the chances of winning.
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Not if it's a poisoned apple. Every bite is one more step towards death with nothing to gain from it in the end, but an empty hand.
Yes, a few vets are getting their claims approved through DRO's and If the medical opinion didn't come from one of their whores, those DRO's can deny it for any reason they want to make up.

Nothing is standard when it comes to Veterans benefits across this country. It wouldn't surprise me to hear a veteran in California was jailed for the same claim someone in Main was awarded 100% for.

What's the total cost of such a corrupt and dysfunctional agency, along with it's buildings, facilities, court system, employees that can't read English, masochistic Dr's, phone operators, research facilities, etc?

It may be cheaper for the government to pay every disabled vet in the country 1 mil every year, than to keep such a corrupt outfit in business as the Dept of Veterans Affairs comp & pen and it's so called health care system.

My days will soon come to an end, but long after I'm gone these new vets will continue to have their claims processed by the same manner of lies.

My best to you Pete.




The DVA didn't give a damn about Vietnam vets then & still don't.
You new brothers & sisters are just the next in line.

Around 4% of us may get their claims approved and DRO's are involved in the rating process, you do the math.



Watch your six folks and look out for your families!