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Spn Code Website Now Up, Massive Fraud

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Beginning in 1956, DOD ordered the military to place a SECRET coded number on the DD-214 of ALL Veterans ( 26 million ). Called a SPN, SDN, or SPD code, can say bedwetter, homosexual, character disorders, lewd acts, unsanitary habits, repeated VD, on & on they go. Go to: http://veterancourtcodes.com view 90min DVD video of show i did in Chicago April 2007, under MENU, click on PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBITS, BRIEFS, read all about the codes, quick document is the CONG. PRESS RELEASE under MENU. VA uses the codes to determine eligibility for benefits and hospitals use them as well. Millions with an HONORABLE discharge have BAD code, you DID NOT have to do anything, you just got stabbed in the back. VA takes claim number, gives phony name, pays phony, while REAL vet gets delayed, denied benefits. This is major problem !!!! NO LIBERTY !

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I looked for the codes, but your site seems fairly complex to navigate. Could you please post the codes and their meanings here? I am very interested in reading them.

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Okay, now I understand more of this. The information is on the website but yes it's hard to navigate.

Basically the DOD assigned codes on DD214's between something like 1959 and 1974. Vietnam Vet's have these seperation codes. The problem is everyone has access to the meaning of these codes and in many cases there is no basis for receiving a particular code. I listed a small few of the ARMY codes. The thought is that the VA also has these code meanings and may judge a claimant accordingly. Or an employer.

My dial-up connection, old slow computer and tired brain make it too much of a chore to download, copy and attache these documents but the link the original poster works and I went to "SPIN CODES" under the main menu.

BDK Military Personnel Security Program AR 600–8–24, para 4–2b(10) and para 4–24a(1) 1

BHK Substandard Performance AR 600–8–24, para 4–2a and para 4–24a(1) 1

BNB Unacceptable Conduct (Anthrax Refusal) AR 600–8–24, para 4–2b and para 4–24a(1) 1

BNC Unacceptable Conduct AR 600–8–24, para 4–2b and para 4–24a(1) 1

BRA Homosexual Conduct (Acts) AR 600–8–24, para 4–22 and para 4–24a(1) 1

BRB Homosexual Conduct (Statement) AR 600–8–24, para 4–22 and para 4–24a(1) 1

BRC Homosexual Conduct (Marriage or Attempted

Marriage)

AR 600–8–24, para 4–22 and para 4–24a(1) 1

DFS In Lieu of Trial by Court-Martial AR 600–8–24, para 3–13

FCA Early Release Program–Voluntary Separation

Incentive

AR 600–8–24, para 3–5 2

FCB Early Release Program–Special Separation

Benefit

AR 600–8–24, para 3–5 2

FDF Pregnancy or childbirth AR 600–8–24, para 3–11

FDL Ecclesiastical Endorsement AR 600–8–24, para 5–5

FFW Failed Medical/Physical Procurement Standards

AR 600–8–24, para 3–9

FHC Immediate Enlistment or Reenlistment AR 600–8–24, para 3–7 3

FHG Dismissal, No Review AR 600–8–24, para 3–13

FND Miscellaneous/General Reasons AR 600–8–24, para 3–5

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DD214's still have sdp/spn codes. i retired in 1997 and mine is RBD.

Also, htere is an Army Regulation that has all SPD/SPN codes and definitions. When I was active duty I had one as a reference regulation. I tried to access it via google and the library won't let me see it. "FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY".

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It seems to me that some of the the codes that you have posted are in reference to UCMJ (United States Code of Military Justice).

I disagree with EdC59 stating that the VA uses these code to determine eligibility for benefits and hospitals uses them as well. Why do I feel that EdC59 is not trustworthy!! :rolleyes:

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...Millions with an HONORABLE discharge have BAD code, you DID NOT have to do anything, you just got stabbed in the back. VA takes claim number, gives phony name, pays phony, while REAL vet gets delayed, denied benefits...

I respectfully disagree with your statement shown above. As a former senior NCO, I never saw evidence of the "BAD code" discharge without an accompanying misconduct (e.g., UCMJ cases and bars to reenlistment) by the recipient.

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Saw the codes on search engine. Amazing details regards these codes all over. Hope individuals who contest their codes win the challenge if really needed. Best to you Ed in your endeavor as well, sorry about your stress. cg :rolleyes:

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Ed- SO glad you are here!

Ed has given some excellent information on this subject in past shows he has been on at:

http://www.stardustent.com/

Under the archived shows at the SVR link to the left of the page.

Compelling information!

NVLSP devotes a section to SPN codes etc and how they can be changed and potentially upgrade discharges etc-in the VBM.

The extensive work you have done to enlighten veterans on this info is remarkable.

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DD214's still have sdp/spn codes. i retired in 1997 and mine is RBD.

Also, htere is an Army Regulation that has all SPD/SPN codes and definitions. When I was active duty I had one as a reference regulation. I tried to access it via google and the library won't let me see it. "FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY".

I ETS'd in '91 and don't have a code on my DD214.

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Thanks for the knowledge..Mine says JFL which I suspected, but now know, means physical disability with seperation pay.

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Just watched the video. Wow..how come we never heard that on the 6:00 news? I see that the video was dated 2004..has the fraud stopped or anything been done about it?

Maybe that's why my Sleep Apnea appeal is pushing 4 years from date of original claim...

Just goes to show you that there are hidden agendas causing a lot of our unacceptably delayed claims!

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Can't find code REB. anyone? Am thinking means "early retirement'.cg

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WOW! Interesting.

Cowgirl...I did not see REB either but RBE is as you presume.

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My goof, keys got in the way of my fingers! RBE. yup.thanks. CG

WOW! Interesting.

Cowgirl...I did not see REB either but RBE is as you presume.

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I respectfully disagree with your statement shown above. As a former senior NCO, I never saw evidence of the "BAD code" discharge without an accompanying misconduct (e.g., UCMJ cases and bars to reenlistment) by the recipient.
MANITOU SPRGS = go to my website; http://veterancourtcodes.com under MENU click on PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBITS, then click on PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBIT 1, read it, its there. I have the proof, enough said.

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I ETS'd in '91 and don't have a code on my DD214.

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TIME TO WIN A RACE = after 1975, the codes were not supposed to go on YOUR copy of the DD-214, however, it went on the other 8 or more copies made, and thats how they get the code, and you know nothing about it. Send Congressman a copy of your DD-214, ask him/her to find out what your SPD CODE is, and its meaning !! Lastly, they are starting to put the code back on some vets copies, this i have seen.

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Just watched the video. Wow..how come we never heard that on the 6:00 news? I see that the video was dated 2004..has the fraud stopped or anything been done about it?

Maybe that's why my Sleep Apnea appeal is pushing 4 years from date of original claim...

Just goes to show you that there are hidden agendas causing a lot of our unacceptably delayed claims!

CHRISTOPHER = the date of the video is APRIL 2007, not 2004. This system started in 1956, the GOV'T got its computers in 1964, thats when it took off. Congress will not do anything as the money seems to end up in political coffers, hence, U.S. Sen. Sam Ervin, WATERGATE COMM. discovering these codes. The COURTS should be doing something, however, a secret society has control, the founding fathers left out the word LAWYER, and FOR GOOD REASON, they did not want them to control OUR Justice System.

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It seems to me that some of the the codes that you have posted are in reference to UCMJ (United States Code of Military Justice).

I disagree with EdC59 stating that the VA uses these code to determine eligibility for benefits and hospitals uses them as well. Why do I feel that EdC59 is not trustworthy!! :rolleyes:

CHONGO = go to my website; http://veterancourtcodes.com under MENU click on PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBITS, then click on PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBIT 19A, read it, VA does use the CODES, then CLICK on PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBIT 5, look at date, VA send letter to vet opening claim for him, he did NOT open claim. THE PROOF is all there folks, just read it, don't throw stones at this messenger, he is a decorated combat veteran of Vietnam, 15th Special Operations Squadron, MACVSOG, Nha Trang 68-70 and is trained in law. Merry Christmas

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SPN's have been around and discussed for many decades.

Here are some much easier URL's to find them & their meanings.

FYI - This is NOT new information, we have it in our search section,

or archives, it can also be Googled.

Alphabetical SPN's

http://www.utahvva.org/documents/spn%20codes_alpha.htm

Numerical SPN's

http://www.utahvva.org/documents/spn%20codes_num.htm

Here's another url that I believe is in reference to this threads original poster,

although it may not be.

http://www.landscaper.net/discharg.htm

Scroll all the way down.

Hope this helps a vet.

carlie

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I looked for the codes, but your site seems fairly complex to navigate. Could you please post the codes and their meanings here? I am very interested in reading them.

RENTAL GUY = go back to my website, under MENU, there is SPN CODES, click on that, a window opens that says NUMERICAL, ALPHABETICAL, you see, those discharged before the 1980's received a code looking like SPN-123, SDN-123, or SPD-123 ( numerical ) sometime in the 80's they changed it to ALPHABETICAL i.e. SPD-XYZ not hard, i will answer anyones questions, send email thru website, still have lots of documents in reserve . If you are lucky enough to NOT get a BAD code, what are you going to do about your fellow veterans with an Honorable Discharge who did ??? Remember your oath, it does not end by taking off the uniform, LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALL ! Not just a few, or the rich, protect the American People & the Constitution, thats our job, no party politics, just the Constitution.

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SPN's have been around and discussed for many decades.

Here are some much easier URL's to find them & their meanings.

FYI - This is NOT new information, we have it in our search section,

or archives, it can also be Googled.

Hope this helps a vet.

carlie

Alphabetical SPN's

http://www.utahvva.org/documents/spn%20codes_alpha.htm

Numerical SPN's

http://www.utahvva.org/documents/spn%20codes_num.htm

CARLIE = who do you think gave the Utah Vietnam Veterans chapter the codes ??? RIGHT, me, have even talked on the phone with webmaster there. Gave them the documents too !!

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Ed,

Please use the entire quote when you quote me. If you go back and look you'll see the 3rd url I listed is to you.

carlie

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SPN's have been around and discussed for many decades.

Here are some much easier URL's to find them & their meanings.

FYI - This is NOT new information, we have it in our search section,

or archives, it can also be Googled.

Alphabetical SPN's

http://www.utahvva.org/documents/spn%20codes_alpha.htm

Numerical SPN's

http://www.utahvva.org/documents/spn%20codes_num.htm

Here's another url that I believe is in reference to this threads original poster,

although it may not be.

http://www.landscaper.net/discharg.htm

Scroll all the way down.

Hope this helps a vet.

carlie

As Carlie states above, none of the information provided at the beginning of this thread is new. On the other hand, the claim that there has been massive fraud and the implication that there is a plot to cheat good military people via bogus discharges is absurd in my opinion. [additional text removed by poster as it is immaterial]

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the spin # at the top of my DD214 is 219-70

219 says Erroneous Induction ----- I enlisted in the Marines

and what does the 70 stand for??? I got out in 70

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when you seperate, youget 2 copies of dd214 copy 1 and copy 4. copy 4 should have it.

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Carlie - Thanks for the links. Does anyone know if the statement on the link is accurate when it says:

"These codes are subject to change, and the Department of Defense will no longer allow the military services to release the meanings of these codes to the general public. The below definitions were obtained before this prohibition went into effect."

If the codes change that just gives the VA one more point of possible error over time (remember, WWII vets are still applying for claims - how many times do/will these codes change over the years and how diligent will the VA be in making sure to pull out the codesheet for the year you got out?).

Also, wouldn't this information fall out under FOIA and be public information? What's the deal with secret codes? Again, if anyone can confirm or deny the whole secrecy piece I'd appreciate it.

Recruiter Rick - I take it this is the "separation code" in block 26 of Member copy 4 of my DD 214? Flatbroke mentioned a number at the top of his and the only number I have on the top of mine is where I filed it with the Clerk of Courts years ago.

My separation code is LBK which is Expiration of Term of Service (funny, I was just asking what ETS meant the other day). Of course, that's the Army code. I hope the VA doesn't get confused and think I was in the Navy because then LBK means Involuntary discharge at end active obligated service, USN - Enlisted.

Thanks,

TS

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