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#1 Phillies44

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 06:22 AM

I am trying to be patient, but I wanted to know what others thought. Two weeks ago I had my PTSD c&p exam, it was only twenty minutes and he only asked me basic questions. He only asked me two about combat and the rest were about my daily living and mental status. He gave me a DX of Generalized Anxiety Disorder and a GAF of 52. He also put in things I did not say and twisted some things I did say around. He also put that I did not meet the criteria for ptsd. I was wondering how could he come to this conclusion, when he barely saw me for my first ptsd exam? It is almost like he had read my charts and already had a DX for me before he saw me. I feel powerless and wanted to know what do now? Just wait or is there something I could do? Thanks

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 09:57 AM

Who knows how they come up with anything except its pretty well known that VA does not want to grant PTSD claims. Did he connect your anxiety to Service?

Are you working. A 52 GAF is a pretty serious rating in its own right.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 10:38 AM

Do you have a copy of your SMRs? Do you know if there exists in there a dx of GAD? Or a dx of PTSD? If there is something written in your SMRs pointing in either direction already that could answer many questions.

As far as GAF scores. I've heard both ways about those....some say the VA uses them, some say the VA employees might use them as lottery numbers, basically they don't mean much. One score by itself might not show much until you show a pattern of consistent scores....but that's just my opinion on what I've noticed over the years...

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 11:52 AM

Who knows how they come up with anything except its pretty well known that VA does not want to grant PTSD claims. Did he connect your anxiety to Service?

Are you working. A 52 GAF is a pretty serious rating in its own right.

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Hello Pete, from what I have read he says nothing about connecting anxiety to the service. But most of my previous VA records state generalized anxiety disorder.And I agree 52 is a low score, but from what I have read on this site that does not matter. No I am not working and have not been working for a while because of these issues. He wrote below my GAF, that veteran has moderate and persistent symptoms of generalized anxiety disorder and is not working. Would this evaluation go towards another mental illness or is it good for nothing now that he says I do not have PTSD? Thanks for your reply.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 12:04 PM

Do you have a copy of your SMRs? Do you know if there exists in there a dx of GAD? Or a dx of PTSD? If there is something written in your SMRs pointing in either direction already that could answer many questions.

As far as GAF scores. I've heard both ways about those....some say the VA uses them, some say the VA employees might use them as lottery numbers, basically they don't mean much. One score by itself might not show much until you show a pattern of consistent scores....but that's just my opinion on what I've noticed over the years...


Hi purple, I just got your reply and thanks. I do not have anything in my active duty SMR records about mental illness. And I have seen on this site that pretty much means denial. I do have some paperwork I sent to the VA about my reserves days, stating I was on medical hold and they were going to discharge me becasue of my psych meds. Also I wrote to Pete about my VA records DX me with generalized anxiety disorder for most of the past three years. Do these count as a nexus? I have also read about that on GAF scores. Thanks again for your feedback.



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Posted 25 May 2009 - 12:11 PM

You are going to probably need your own doctor opinion to DX PTSD. I think there is no doubt that these VA doctors are tying not to diagnose PTSD. Every PTSD diagnosis is a failure for American Arms. It means the military is discharging soldiers by the thousands with PTSD instead of treating them. I bet the VA is using some strict criteria to diangose PTSD and if you don't hit all the slots you don't get the diagnosis. There have been maybe 40,000 serious physical injuries in the war on terror. If they count all the PTSD injuries that number increases by 150,000. The present and future costs of these wars is astronomical.

#7 Phillies44

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:58 AM

Who knows how they come up with anything except its pretty well known that VA does not want to grant PTSD claims. Did he connect your anxiety to Service?

Are you working. A 52 GAF is a pretty serious rating in its own right.

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Thanks guys for your replies. The doctor did not even mention PTSD once during the exam. As soon as I walked in his office, because I never had one before, I asked what is this about? His reply was simply, "nerves." But anyway, I do have my VA records that mostly say GAD for three years now, and in 06' in the reserves it says anxiety. As I have been reading and what you guys told me the GAF score doesn't mean much. That score is pretty low on the scale I have read, but I have not been working for some time now, the symptoms just got too heavy. I honestly do not think I have PTSD, anxiety and depression yes. I did not put in a claim for PTSD, I had one in for depression and told the VARO my story and a couple weeks later they sent me a paper to sign and put it on my claim, I do not know what that is about? If you guys have any input on what you think let me know, please. So I guess the best thing to do is forget about the PTSD, I did see combat in 03', but I think I should get a IMO for anxiety? Let me know and thanks again guys for your replies.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 05:50 AM

You are going to probably need your own doctor opinion to DX PTSD. I think there is no doubt that these VA doctors are tying not to diagnose PTSD. Every PTSD diagnosis is a failure for American Arms. It means the military is discharging soldiers by the thousands with PTSD instead of treating them. I bet the VA is using some strict criteria to diangose PTSD and if you don't hit all the slots you don't get the diagnosis. There have been maybe 40,000 serious physical injuries in the war on terror. If they count all the PTSD injuries that number increases by 150,000. The present and future costs of these wars is astronomical.

Thanks for the replies, I agree from reading the gaf scale 52 is pretty low. I am not working and have not been for awhile, the anxiety and depression just became too heavy, almost out of nowhere. With PTSD, I did not even file for that orginally, I filed for depression. But after I sent in my original claim and wrote a short story for the VARO, I got a letter from the VARO saying they were adding PTSD to my claim and then I had the exam a couple weeks later. I did see combat in 03' so maybe that is why? But when I walked into the psych exam doctors office, I said what is this about? It was my first exam for PTSD and he just said simply,"nerves." I do not know what that was all about? But with my GAD, my VA psych records have been saying GAD and depression for about three years now and for my SMR the only thing I have in there was a record of DX of GAD in 06' when they put me on profile and were trying to medically discharge me for the pysch meds. But I will try to get a IMO for my anxiety and forget about PTSD, since the exam doctor wrote I do not meet the criteria. Thanks again and if you have any more comments that would be great.