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#1 Ken1

 
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 10:49 AM

I just found this web site and have some concerns with up coming C&P appointments.

1. I have a C&P Audio schedule for 7/6/09 in Memphis
2. I have a C&P Audio schedule for 7/10/09 in Memphis

Is it common for VA to schedule two appointments for the same type of test?

I files for hearing lost and tinnitus in Oct 2007 and just now getting an appointment. I must state at this time I do not trust the VA claim process.
I am going into this process expecting the person giving me the test will use some tricks. I am concerned about the procedure

Thanks in advance for any feedback

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 01:05 PM

Nope someone made a mistake. You should call the clinic and ask

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 01:07 PM

Ken,
I took a hearing test in the Memphis VA about six months ago, and the lady who administred it seemed fair. I filed for hearing loss and tinnitus, but only got 10% for the tinnitus. I was only scheduled for one day so I'm not sure about the second test you're scheduled for. Bet the old guys on the board can answer that better than me.

The test lasted about 45 minutes and I had to turn my back to her for most of the test so that I could not read her lips. I told her I had been a cobra pilot who had been shot down twice with 51 Cal rounds impacting in the cock pit both times which seemed pretty noisy at the time. Those incidents plus being around turbine engines for 20 years has pretty much screwed up my hearing. I asked about a hearing aid, but the lady said I didn't need one yet. My wife thinks I do, but I'll let them argue that one out :D



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Posted 03 July 2009 - 01:24 PM

Cavtrooper:

I have tinnitus and the range of voice I can't hear is a woman's voice natural range. My wife was with me when they explained it and said she would just jab me with a fork when she needed my attention

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Posted 03 July 2009 - 04:49 PM

Ken1,
Whether you think you hear the sounds (during the test) or not,
don't guess. In other words if your not sure if you hear the tones
or not don't just keep pushing the button and guessing.
I feel many vets do get SC'd for hearing loss but are usually
compensated at zero %.
You almost have to be deaf in both ears to get even 10% for hearing loss.
I have a VA RX'd and provided hearing aid and my SC for hearing loss remains at zero %.
If your Tinnitus is granted as SC'd it will be at a flat 10 % whether it's in both ears or not,
it pays 10%, if granted SC.
I would verify both C&P dates and I would still show up both dates
but I can be real nuts about never missing a C&P appointment.
Good luck.
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Posted 03 July 2009 - 06:34 PM

Peter53,
That gave me a good laugh. I can't recognize my wife's voice (or any other female)
over the phone. I've have paid the price for that tragic disability many times in the form of a good a--chewing from HQ6. She understands perfectly that I have a hearing problem. She has never understood why that has anything to do with her giving me my daily marching orders. <_<

Ken1,
I think you'll get the 10% for tinnitus pretty easy if you were in a combat zone. Carlie is also right. It will be 10% as a total for both ears, not 10% for each ear.

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 03:13 AM

Thanks for all the replies

Ken1

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Posted 04 July 2009 - 06:52 AM

Thanks for the replies

Ken1

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:08 PM

Just a follow up the C&P schedule for 7/10 was cancel.

I have never experience a hearing exam as the one at VA Memphis today, very detail. I have no idea of outcome but think I will meet the tinnitus requirements
The lost of hearing the lady giving test stated come back next year for another test to see if I needed hearing aids' She also stated we all have troubler hearing in a noisy environment. I have no idea what the test number results indicated but now wait for results.

Ken1

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:20 PM

Ken1,
Did the examiner have your C-file or service medical records (SMR's)
while you were at the examination?
Did you and the examiner discuss your Tinnitus?
In about 7-10 days I would go and get a copy of the C&P just to
know exactly what the examiner put in writing and to have it for my files.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:48 PM

I left w/o any records. I did see my 12" thick file but could not touch.

We did discuss my "Tinnitus" before and after excam. I think I meet the requirements but should know within a month.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:02 PM

Ken,
I had my exam in Memphis, probably by the same lady. She was non committal with me as well, but a month later I was notified by VA that I had be awarded 10% for tinnitus, and nothing for hearing.
I did stress during the exam that I was around several large explosions in Viet Nam.

Good Luck! Cavtrooper088

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:17 PM

Ken,
I had my exam in Memphis, probably by the same lady. She was non committal with me as well, but a month later I was notified by VA that I had be awarded 10% for tinnitus, and nothing for hearing.
I did stress during the exam that I was around several large explosions in Viet Nam.

Good Luck! Cavtrooper088


Cav,
Did VA bother to SC your hearing loss at even zero percent or did
they totally deny hearing loss as SC?
carlie

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 06:14 PM

Today was my first C&P for hearing, waiting on results.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 07:42 PM

Cav,
Did VA bother to SC your hearing loss at even zero percent or did
they totally deny hearing loss as SC?
carlie


They just simply denied it Carlie. This exam took place about six months ago. I figured that hearing loss would only come back around 10% so I didn't push it. I really wanted the 0% from the Tininnitus as that pushed me over the 90% mark.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 07:47 PM

We did discuss my "Tinnitus" before and after excam. I think I meet the requirements but should know within a month.
Ken1


Ken1,
What did the discussion concerning your Tinnitus entail?
Like what questions did the examiner pose regarding Tinnitus
and what answers were you able to provide?
carlie
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 08:02 PM

I have a good question for this thread - my late husband was sc at 0% for hearing loss....but why bother to even make it sc if they give you 0%? Does it make them feel like they did something to benefit the vet?

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 08:29 PM

you have to be nearly deaf to get above the zero.if you are zero ,at least they will treat you and you get hearing aids.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:09 PM

They just simply denied it Carlie. This exam took place about six months ago. I figured that hearing loss would only come back around 10% so I didn't push it. I really wanted the 0% from the Tininnitus as that pushed me over the 90% mark.

Cav


Cav,
I think you posted the above percentages in reverse order.

On the Rating Decision that denied hearing loss - what did they state in the
Reasons and Bases Section as to why they denied SC for hearing loss?

On the Rating Decision that granted Tinnitus - what did they state in the
Reasons and Bases Section as to why they granted Tinnitus.

Many, many, many of the Rating Decisions that I have personally read,
that grant SC for Tinnitus, will usually provide some good evidence in the
Evidence and Reasons and Bases Section of the Rating Decision, in the Medical Rationale
part, that would also be supportive of granting Hearing loss as SC'd.

Example: (Hypothetical Rating Decision)

Issue 1:
SC for Hearing loss is denied as SMR's show no complaints or findings of a hearing loss
during your active duty military service.

Issue 2:
SC for Tinnitus.
On VA C&P examination dated XX-XX-XXXX, opined that you suffer from subjective
recurrent Tinnitus. During this VA C&P examination, the Veteran demonstrated that he currently suffers from hearing loss according to the VA standard. 38 C.F.R. 3.385 (2008).
Specifically, the Veteran scored 40 decibels or above at 3000 Hertz and 4000 Hertz in his each of his ears. The examiner states,if the noise is loud enough and the duration of exposure long enough, however, it may cause a permanent threshold shift. This condition is called noise induced hearing loss, and has no cure and is irreversible.
The Veteran was also medically diagnosed with tinnitus.
The examiner states in their opinion, that your active duty MOS
listed as XXXXX Flight Deck Attendent, is as likely as not the cause of your recurrent Tinnitus.

Upon examination of your 201 Personel File it is shown your MOS was XXXXX - Flight Deck Attendent. An original DD214 contained in your claims file also supports an MOS of XXXXX,
Flight Deck Attendent. As such it is conceeded that SC for Tinnitus is granted with an effective date of XX-XX-XXXX, the date of your claim. Tinnitus is compensated at 10 percent whether
appearing bilaterally or in one ear only.

Cav - do you see here in this Hypothetical Rating Decision, the part that grants the Tinnitus as SC'd also is supportive of a grant of SC for Hearing loss.

This is a hypothetical Rating Decision but please believe me when I tell you many
Rating Decisions, in fact, do read as such.

Hope this helps a vet.
carlie

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 06:21 AM

Carlie,
You're right I didn't reverse the percentages. Arkansas math <_<

Thanks for the good information brother. I'll pull the decision paper out and look again. I was just so happy to get the boost up to 90% that I didn't look at the hearing results that hard. I do know one thing. I don't hear worth a hoot!

Cav

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 08:30 AM

My daughter received her decision yesterday. Bilaterial hearing loss 20%, status post right mastoidectomy with tympanoplasty for cholesteatoma and oitis media, and left cholesteatoma with chronic otitis media 10%, and tinnitus 10% for a total of 40 percent.
The decision for tinnitus is as follows: "We have granted your claim for service connection for tinnitus as directly related to military service. Service treatment records do not show objective evidence of any in-service treatment, clinical finding, complaint, or disease process to establish the onset of tinnitus at that time while on active duty. However, a medical opinion at examination establishes a direct corelation between the current symptoms and the recurreny middle ear disease during military service. An evaluation of 10 percent is assigned".
When I won my decision for tinnitus I sent the VA a tape recording I made to my wife while in Viet Nam. A battery of 155 artillery would shoot over my head 24 - 7 and the needles on the tape recorder would peak out. Evidence wins claims.
Terry




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