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I just received an IRIS letter stating this-

Dear Mr. Cool Breeze-

Thank you for your inquiry of December 08, 2011.

A review of your records shows that you received a Notification Letter on November 28, 2011. A retroactive payment on December 1, 2011 for $528.00 and a regular payment of $941.00 was received on the same day. The two payments received on December 1, 2011 totaled $1,469.00 and your payment on December 30, 2011 was for $1,479.00. No other retro payments are to be received.

If you have further questions, you may call our toll free number of 800-827-1000 and speak to one of our representatives. You may also write to the Phoenix VA Regional Office, 3333 North Central Ave. Phoenix, AZ 85012, or send us an electronic inquiry through the Internet at https://iris.va.gov.

What the heck? I thought I was waiting for the military retirement to finish there audit, so the VA can pay me 2 years of retro. This is definitely going to my Congressman's office that they are cheating me-this is a Cue claim. How do I go about suing the VA for emotional distress. I am having severe chest pains from this-I'll see what Peggy has to say-someone owes me big time!!

I am not putting up with this *****.

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Did DFAS finish the audit? I'm heading in the same direction, but after reading the DoDI re: recoupment of severance, I sent an email to DFAS (cor_claims@dfas.mil) to see if they'd received my retirement orders, and how they handle what had been recouped by the VA, and how military retirement plays into the mix. I'd send DFAS an email and see what's going on. Maybe they haven't finished yet???

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They haven't finished. Could take 2-3 months, and then the VA takes even longer to process this as a new claim for compensation retro if entitled. The rep told me to go ahead and forward this to the Congressman-they don't care how they write this. I am entitled to the cdrp, just the VA is treating me like thats all you are getting.

Totally unprofessional and disgusting to receive a letter like that.

And then he wanted to know if I have service organization helping me. Sure-the DAV-I fired them long time ago. That's why I am at 70%-vs 10%. They are a great help!!

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the dav turned me away so I went with the american legion the first time around. I fired them for incompetence and went on my own. if it were up to them I would have nothing and like it.

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OK... you guys have me concerned. I was just awarded IU back dated to Dec. 2010 along with some other things from a claim going back to May of 2010. So, no RETRO should be expected or am I not understanding what you are sharing?

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You should get IU retro back to your effective date. Probably January 2011 if I understand all the details. Do you owe VA any money?

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No, I don't owe them anything, and I sure could use the retro!

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My situation is a little different. THis only applies to retired military who also receive VA compensation. The way they process this -

1. You are awarded a new claim(Higher rating 50% or more)

2. The VA pays you the new amount shortly-the difference of what you were getting

3 The VA sends a statement to the military retirement payroll requesting an audit of your pay(time frame 30-60 days)

4. Once this gets back to the VA, they open another claim which has no known time frame to pay you the retro if any.

5. This all falls under the CRDP program which for me now pays over 99% of my military pay-just take 22.00 from my pay which is phased out next year..

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Ok, I'm in the same boat I guess since I am retired military as well. When did this change? Last year I had an increase from 40% to 80% and rec'd retro right away. Right now they only take $5 for VA waiver. Sounds like I might have some more waiting to do???

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You will have to wait a lot longer. Too many were getting overpaid. So, the procedures have been reversed . 30-60 days after you get paid from the military with the new pay-then they sit on it for a while till they feel like sending the audit to the VA. Then the VA will do the same time till some one lights a fire cracker before you get your retro!

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Negilgent and disgusting. This type of thing pisses me off. Does the VA realize they are pissing of hundreds of thousands motivated, sometimes unstable individuals trained to kill? ph34r.png On a serious note keep your head up these bastards really piss me off.

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So BOGUS!!

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Why do you think that the VA was among the first of government agencies to start strict security practices concerning non employees?

(Of course they know who they are aggrivating)

Many years ago, I was given "free access" to the VA's Chicago area RO when I was trying to deal with an education related problem. (Why?)

At the time, I was working at the sole "defense plant" in the area, and showed up in a suit, with all the badges, trappings, etc. Seems that earlier

I had gone to a formal meeting at the plant, and that required wearing all the whistles and bells. (Suit, Military A/C tie tac, flag lapel pin, ID badge etc.)

It was kind of interesting, in that I left the VARO with a hand signed "certificate" instead of the computer generated one that gets mailed whenever the VA gets around to it.

Negilgent and disgusting. This type of thing pisses me off. Does the VA realize they are pissing of hundreds of thousands motivated, sometimes unstable individuals trained to kill? ph34r.png On a serious note keep your head up these bastards really piss me off.

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After 3 months, My crdp claim for the tax audit by the military retirement has finally been completed and sent back to the VA so they can pay me my retro payment. Now I imagine this will be another 6 months as they have to verify the info, sent this through development again. I guess I have about 10 million Vets ahead of me before I see some $$$$.

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I guess I have about 10 million Vets ahead of me before I see some $$$$.

CB - NO - it's down to just under a million :-)

(This is an attempt to help you have a smile)

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Now I have been told it could be up to one year before I receive my retro. The VA received the audit work sheet back from the military with the 5 figure award.

THe 800# said this is a new claim in development. You must be kidding me. THe claim already was approved, I am already receiving the correct amount.

Please tell me this is not the correct method they now do retro's. Process as a new claim and wait for another year.

Goodness, probably that is why I have been not as active as I wish on this board as I am totally stressed out. Need to have a clear mind to help others.

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Cool,

Have you talked with the folks at DFAS? When we talked about this in the forum about a month ago, I call DFAS and got in touch with one of the auditors in the section formerly known as "VA Retro Pay". She explained the process to me and indicated that all they needed was for one payment to be made with the veterans new CRDP amount, this would trigger the audit and the retro (if any) would be awarded.

Unless she lied to me (and of course that's possible) she did not indicate that retro pay activity would be "actioned" as a new claim.

This is the # I called... if it goes to the retirement pay section, have them transfer you to retro. Hope this helps.

877-327-4457 (then select option 1 or 3)

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Once this audit is completed(and it has been) it is sent back to the VA to pay me all my back retro. THey send the audit work sheet back to the VA with what the VA should pay me, which is a 5 figure sum.

Now that the VA has it, it sets there and rots till they feel like paying me. It is currently with the VA finance dept.

So far, I have been told this is when I can expect to see my payment.

1. One year.

2. 90 days

3. 45 days

4 1 month

5. 2 weeks

6. There is no time limit when you can expect to be paid.

ALso was told this is now in the development stage. It has to go to the regular process as a new claim.

Before, the VA would just pay your retro right after the claim was done, then send the audit work sheet to DPAS to investigate since you are entitled to CRDP.

Just the thought of going through the same procee with my other claims gives me a severe case of acid reflex!!

So its all depending on the VA now. Perhaps A call to a Senator or Congressman to light of some fire works!!

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I've been following this as was recently upgraded from 40% to 70% (only a 17 month process). But I'm confused concerning the back and forth to DFAS. Which retro are we talking about, VA or DFAS ? Unless I'm totally mistaken (not unusual) the VA disability (including any retro payments) have nothing to do with my retired pay status and should not require any input from DFAS. I received my new higher disability payment on 1 Feb and would expect the ~17 month retro payments shortly. Or am dreaming ??

Now with the upgrade over 50%, I'm now eligible for CRDP and received that upgrade also on 1 Feb. I would expect my 17 month retirement pay retro payments to have to go through the process you described and don't expect to see anything for some time. But I don't see any reason for the VA to have to audit my DFAS account to compute or pay a VA disability.

Is this correct or am I trying to apply some logic to a bunch of federal bureaucracies ?

As an aside, I'm probably too optimistic, several years ago I had a VA overpayment problem (my fault, a couple of status changes I didn't think to report) and while I was able to resolve that to the VA's satisfaction and repaid the "overpayment", I have never been able to get a refund if the (then) DFAS underpayment that resulted (I was rated at 40% then so all my VA payments were offset from my retired pay). Some local counselor's have advised me that this isn't unusual and the only way they've seen to resolve this issue was to go Congressional.

Thanks for all your input and help.

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I can only share with you what I've experienced and have been informed of by DFAS and VA... In June of 2011 the VA and DFAS began a "combined effort" to audit retro payments issued to retirees due to apparent "overpayments" related to CRDP. In short, the VA now sends payment data to DFAS for them to "scrub" to ensure or validate whether or not the Veteran is owed any retro.

In my case, I received two increases in one year... Feb 2011, from 40% to 80%, retro paid within days of the new decision. In Dec. 2011, awarded TDIU and a bunch of other increases but, due to the new audit controls, no retro YET. This action, from my understanding only applies to retirees.

I was informed that it takes only one payment to "activate" the audit process by establishing "payment history"; afterwards, the information regarding retro (if any) is provided to the VA for payment to the Veteran.

CB was given a series of timelines as to when retro would be paid, I was only informed that the process "would not take long".

I've stressed too much over waiting for my last claim to be completed (467 days), I'm not doing that again, if and when it shows up , it shows up.

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I just requested an hardship to expediate this claim as it could take the VA several years to do there audit once the military as done theres. I received an iris message back stating do to the many, many claims pending, it could be a while before this process is completed. And-there is no time frame fo them to do so.

So, the good old days of getting an increase and getting a fat deposit shortly afterwards are out the door for us folks in this category.

And even requesting an hardship is not an guarantee they will expediate this. They requested everything but the kitchen sink to be sent in for this.

Not planning to do so. I have established my own time table. From next week to 5 years at the minimum. It could be shorter, or it could be longer.

And, the thought of all those appeals I also have pending, to have to go through the same process will take an additional few years before you see the end result.

I have no more vacation days left-just contemplating the prostate surgury that my private insurance is going to do instead of the VA experimenting on me like a guinea pig next month!!

If you get your retro let me know as you are 1 month ahead of me.

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Wow!! Still waiting for someone to punch my retro into the computer. How hard can that be!!!!

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Cool,

Other than what you last posted, do you have any indication as to what's happening with your retro?

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I think they are waiting for either of the following to happen:

1. For the President of the US. to approve my retro

2.. The VA ran out of funds, waiting for next fiscal year

3. My Va retro is going the same route as a new claim-1-3 years processing

4. For me to contact my Congressman

5. To take a road trip to the regional office so I can have a face to face talk

6. For me to pass away so they can quitely hit the delete button on this file.

7.. For hell to freeze over.

8. For someone to put the file in the correct dept.

9. For me to have a heart attack so I can file another claim as a secondary-now bed riddden.

10. For the VA to finally realize that job security by deliberatley delaying claims isn't going to work on this case.

11. Processing the claim in the order received-gee-the audit has been completed,.

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Today I was informed it takes 2-3 months on a reto claim once it comes back from DPAS. Good luck for those in my situtation.

The disrespectful agent asked if I wanted to know what the claim waiting time was in Phoenix. I advised him I already know and I wasn't calling about that issue.

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My glimmer of hope is starting to fade just a bit. If I am under CDRP already, and if there is an increase will have to go through all these hoops or should I say ping-pongs between the VA and DFAS? I had one more "emergency" than I can handle lately, and I sure could use any extra pay, retro, increase is does not matter, Donna

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