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#41 Donna Kelley

 
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:44 PM

The more I read about what others are going through, the more depressing it is. Posted Image Every time you reach the projected time frame, it gets moved further out for one reason or another. Almost a year is long enough, don't know how you all have been dong it for more than that.

Sure, the back pay will be nice, if it happens, and if I still have my home by then! I think I will go have a glass of wine or three. Donna

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:05 PM

You hang in there, and I will have a little Crown!Posted Image

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 11:27 PM

Please have a few for me DONNA. I can't t drink anymore.

The VA can't stick to any time frame. They have no one to punish them for not doing so. Is must be any easy go lucky work environment where you don't have to worry about loosing your job. Just show up, put in your time and go home. Big deal if you got 5 or ten claims done. Too bad if you a few meetings to attend, or something else came up. Too bad if the veteran has to wait another 6 months to a year after their claim was done before they get the retro. We'll just put that in the bottom of a pile somewhere and provide the excuse do the 600-700 thousand claims their is no estimated frame before you get it.

This is a very sad disorganiazed outfit. Most other non federal companies would have been forced to go out of business years ago

But other then that- everything is good. My hair is turning white, I have used up all vaction days, sick days, so life goes on.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:01 PM

Dang Cool!

I haven't been on the site for a while... I thought you would be good to go by now. My status changed right after yours; I have decided not to have any expectation to see any retro before Christmas... not stressing over this stuff anymore.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 08:38 PM

Thanks to Steve G for pointing me in the right direction and to Deacon 2011 for posting the number to DFAS Retro Pay office. This was my first month at 100%, so I hope that Deacon 2011 was correctly told that retro-pay is coming soon. I did receive a surprise payment of $94.35 from DFAS earlier this month. This was a repayment of VA Waiver (CRDP Offset) that were deducted from my military pension during the 5 months that I got compensation at the 90% rate, minus taxes of course! Steve G: I am also confused why DFAS is involved in these transactions. It must have something to do with CRDP. Perhaps the VA is verifying that the VA Waiver is paid before they release the disability entitlement. Deacon 2011: although I admire that you can avoid stressing about retro pay, I am not so sure that all of us have that patience. Words cannot truly reflect the adverse effects that waiting a year for the initial award had on me and my family. I won't bore you with the details, as many of you have experienced the same problems, I'm sure. The thought of waiting another year is hard for me. Reality is, my retro could be calculated at the wrong percentage (90%). I am expecting that retro pay will consider my IU award. But, the CRDP Audit sheet that DFAS sent me 4 months ago was generated before the IU decision. Good God, this could actually take years! I can only hope that all of those people involved in the delay of benefits, or the deliberate downgrade of medical conditions suffer the same as we do. After all, if I was rated as the criteria is written in the VA WARMS, there would not have been an offset, or request and wait for unemployability. The thing that bothers me the most is that only veterans are treated this way. If you file for Welfare, or food stamps, or WIC, or any of these government handouts, you get your money right away. It does not matter if anyone in your family tree ever worked a day in their life. You are provided for without question or delay. But, if you give your entire adult life in the service of your country, in the most demanding circumstances in the truly most horrible places on earth, you wait indefinitely to be compensated. Disgraceful! This is why our nation is doomed for economic collapse. We have our priorities all screwed up.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 10:52 PM

Yep. I am sick of all the lying and B.S. the VA has been giving me. I am setting next xmas as the most probable date to get this retro. Sure glad I don't have any guns in the house, otherwise I would be doing some heavy duty venting.

No one knows nothing, nobody gets a rats ***. I'll just tell the IRS they will have to wait for the under payment, the water leak in the back yard will contine costing me an additional 100.00 per month.

Don't call the 800#. They have no information on retro. It is an entirely different category not accessible by anyone. I figure they are using my paperwork for dart board practice.

Yep-a dirty shame that the VA treats us worse than dirt.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:14 AM

I just called the phone number for DFAS Retro-pay that Deacon 2011 provided in the 31 JAN 12 post. That number (877-327-4451) is no longer in service. The new # is: 800-321-1080. There are multiple options on the menu. One is for CRDP or Retro-pay. I don't recall which option number it was because I was trying to write down the previous selections and could not keep up with the recording. It may be #6, as the last thing that I wrote down was "General-#4" before I heard Retro or CRDP. There are 2 options after that. Take the first one (as though you received written correspondence from DFAS), it will get you a live representative. Number 2 is just a recording. The guy that I spoke to, Monroe, was pleasant and knowledgeable. He told me that the VA takes 2 to 4 months after the change in disability percentage (and increase in military pension) to process Retro-pay. I just went to 100% this month, so according to this schedule, the earliest that I'll get the back pay would be 01 MAY 12 and the latest should be 01 JUL 12. Unbelievable. If I don't get paid until July, that will be 2 full years from filing to complete payment. Imagine the civil unrest that we would have in our cities if the government told the Welfare crowd that they will have to wait 2 years to receive benefits. There would be riots, looting, robbery and burglaries beyond the scope of 1968. But, with the thousands of broken veterans, this is just "business as usual". Mind boggling.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:31 PM

I wouldn't count on what DFAS told you. They have no idea what goes on with the VA. And of course the VA can't tell you anything either.

I am working on a formal request to be processed by my Congressman to investigate this issue. I have enough crap of lying, multiple excuses, lack of information, and a completely broken organization that has no idea what they are doing. Mostly wasting tax payer money and causing a lot of VETS of anxiety attacks due to there stupidity and backward pre-world war standards of processing claims.

My suggestion would be to hire a neutral company that can to this job much better. The VA organization as we know it now is broken, unrepairable and undesirable. The government needs to contract this out, by bids on who can do the job better. Obviously the VA never will be able to fix itself. The continue lying to the government about what fixes they have in place, however in realty, we know that is not true.

It is best to just draft a good letter, contact your Congressmans offfice and let the wheel start to spin.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:35 PM

Well, I am not going Congressional just yet. While I was waiting for my initial award, about a year ago, I spoke with an attorney that specializes in VA law. She told me NOT to go to the Congressman at that point. She said that as soon as the VA gets the Congressional Inquiry, they pull the file from the person who is supposed to be working on it and put it on someone's else's desk to look into the problem. She also stated that there is a 60 day freeze on closing the case while the VA investigates and prepares a reply for the Congressman. I am expecting a ruling from my Social Security appeal any day now. If I win, they will owe me a similar amount in retro-pay. They at least square up with you right away. The real shame in my situation is that I am not the only one affected here. After I pay the debts accrued waiting for my award, I have commitments to support others with this money. I have a brother in real estate that is losing his business. I told the priest that I would double my weekly contribution. I actually saved every charity request since I retired with the hope in sending them something when I had closure to my case. The Disabled American Veterans, Knights of Columbus, VFW Charities, Food For The Poor, AMVETS, Catholic Social Services, Police & Firefighters, Bishop's Appeal and even the VA Medical Center that took a year to decide my claim. So, delaying my back payment is hurting countless people. Wrong as it may be, I do draw some consolation from the thought that whoever is stalling my payment, can burn in hell for it.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:25 AM

I agree!!

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:55 AM

Irish:

I agree with everything you say, including the idea that the congressional is the resort when it won't matter because your file is under someone's desk anyway.

I wouldn't lump the VA medical center in with the guys who do the compensation stuff. I know here the medical examiners for C&P are in the same hospital, but I think they are a totally separate program. I know I don't lump my hard working nurses and technicians in with the benefits system. Even then, the docs, nurses and techs with the compensation part have nothing to do with the case adjutication which is just bureaucrats in suits and ties in another building.

Your mileage probably varies, but in my case, the health specialists have always been good to me.

I'm still at a loss to understand why appeals have to be part of the normal adjutication process, instead of just getting it right the first time. My conspiracy theories run wild and it's all I can do to keep them in check. My original response LITERALLY said, you don't qualify for this level because you don't have the following criteria ... and then the next page where the examiners notes are, he stated my symptoms which matched almost VERBATIM. When I appealed, they immediately corrected it, but how does that happen? Of course, my other appeal that lasted four years is another story, but I can understand a little bit of grey area.....

Oh well, except for the retro, I can't complain, and even then, I'm not complaining, yet....

-Grey Mike

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 06:29 PM

7... I like your way of thinking! And, I agree with Mike totally. You can't rope the med staff into the retro bit. Although it took a long time, I must say they did me justice in the end.

Life has taught me lately, not to trust anyone except the wife and the dog! Thank God for SSDI and the IU rating, if not for that, we would be pulling out the weapons that Cool Breeze is looking for!

Try not to think about the retro, it will come, pondering on it only brings stress. Oh well, the wife is not home, so I'm gonna talk to the dog... at least the dog dosen't know what retro is and will not tell me what I already know like when weI call the VA 800#.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:30 PM

I promised myself another 1 month before I decide on another tactic!

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:51 PM

I am too new to the system to know the difference between VA Medical Staff and the people responsible for the Comp & Pen exam. Perhaps, in some cases, there is a difference. The foreigner that did my exam was very hard to understand. He deliberately avoided my questions, then wrote the wrong thing on the exam narrative. There were over 20 errors on the 40 page report. He may not see patients at the hospital. That seems pretty suspicious to me. Why would a separate group of doctors perform the exams that determine your eligibility. The PCM that I have was a nice guy. Time will tell if he has my true concerns at heart. The P.O.S. that did my anxiety/mood disorder/PTSD screening does see patients at the VAMC. I know several other veterans that hate him as much as, or more than me. I did not receive the results of my Social Security appeal yet. I'm not too confident that the judge was very sympathetic to my case. He was another foreigner, so I doubt that service to my country in demanding positions will gain any favor with him. He at least spoke perfect English. I know that Social Security and VA Disability are not related. But, I don't believe that SS would have denied me the first time if the VA had completed my decision. After all, Social Security asked for the VA decision 3 times. Aside from paying off credit debt and making charity contributions, I want to do some work on my house. My wife and I are both "preppers". We believe that a crisis is pending. Consequently, I wanted to put solar panels up for back up power, change my windows and doors and buy some wire to secure my property lines. We will also need to stock the 3 B's, beans-bullets-bandaids. I cannot put any of these plans into place without the money. Sending us all retro-pay after a period of hyperinflation won't be much help at all. I need MY MONEY now. With what the VA owes me, and what Social Security would pay if I am approved, I can secure my family's future. I sometimes wonder if these stall tactics are deliberate, so they never have to pay. How horrible is that, to stall with the hope that some event (death, jail, etc) will end the entitlement. I thank you all for your input. I wish you luck with your cases.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:49 PM

Okay-ebenifits says today "Preparation for notification" for my retro. Not sure why that they clasify this as retired pay adjustment. Also states they received my request for expediate due to financial hardship. I am not sure if this will show up under the VA pay, or if it will just pop up and show later under ebenifits.

Preparation for Notification


Is the VA trying to kill me with a coronary this time, or all they for real? Is this how they process the VA retro under e-benifits. There has been nothing been entered until today when all this showed up at once.
Perhaps this week?

Edited by COOL BREEZE, 02 April 2012 - 11:54 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2012 - 07:08 AM

I wonder if youre getting those notices because you filed the hardship letter. You filed a doc so they have to notify you, whereas they wont notify the rest of us until after the money is in the bank. Then they will send a letter to our next of kin.

The problem i have is just believing im not in for another fight. If the va could communicate better they wouldnt have so much calling and emailing to deal with. Most of us have mental illnesses and all of us have health problems, i would say that the constant uncertainty is probably making us worse.

Reminds me of when youd get short on your pay and had to wait till your next LES to find out why. If it was a mistake, now youre two or three checks behind.

I guess we shouldnt expect the va to be any better than our own military service branches....

-mike

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 07:12 AM

By the way, my 30 mar va and retirement pay were updated and correct. That has been a great help. That was about 45 days from notification of award change decision to pay change. Looking over what people have posted, i see the average as about 4 months from notification to retro payment. Thats june-ish for me. So i promised not to meltdown before that. July 1, all bets are off.

-mike

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:16 AM

It took the VA 3 months before the system was updated to show that this retro was even in the system. That is totally unsatisfactory. And they want you to fill out a customer service survey to see how they are doing?

Yes, the system showed everything at once yesterday. Showed the date they received the request for hardship(6 weeks later), and the preparation for notification.

You mean it will be 3 months before I will receive the retro once it is in the preparation for notification stage. I believe once it gets to that stage, it is in any day now.

These claims are processed differently from regular claims. Now I am not sure if the retro actually shows up before it is paid or not.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:32 AM

I wonder if youre getting those notices because you filed the hardship letter. You filed a doc so they have to notify you, whereas they wont notify the rest of us until after the money is in the bank. Then they will send a letter to our next of kin.

The problem i have is just believing im not in for another fight. If the va could communicate better they wouldnt have so much calling and emailing to deal with. Most of us have mental illnesses and all of us have health problems, i would say that the constant uncertainty is probably making us worse.

Reminds me of when youd get short on your pay and had to wait till your next LES to find out why. If it was a mistake, now youre two or three checks behind.

I guess we shouldnt expect the va to be any better than our own military service branches....

-mike


Mike,
Good morning! If I am reading your note correctly there is a means to file for hardship, is that for filing the claim or obtaining the retro? I too am finding it extremely difficult to understand why it takes so long in receiving the monies that are due, it certainly would not take that long if it was the other way around.

Donna

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:14 AM

Cool:
Yeah i think (hope) youre right, its pretty close to done. I was tracking folks on a couple different topics and it seemed like four months from va letter adjusting percentage to actually getting the retro. That would put you in that same 4 month window - give o take. Hopefully the cash will show up tonight.

I see nothing on ebenefits about anything since my appeal was done. If what you say is correct for everyone, i may still be waiting for that to show up on my account. Of course in the 4 month formula, im still slightly over two months out (where you would have been early february). So we ll see if i get some action on ebennies. I was hoping to just get paid but it isnt going to work out.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:12 AM

Honestly, Mike, in reference to efficiency or proficiency, I would not compare the Veterans Administration with the military. My brief experience with the VA and my many years in the Army tell me that the VA would be much better if they worked like the military. Since I retired, DFAS has been very timely in most transactions. In the Army, everyone answers to someone. There are systems of checks and balances. For the most part, they follow their established rules and regulations. I truly believe that if the Veterans Administration became an entity under the Department of Defense, that there would be vast improvements.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:43 PM

My claim now shows closed-Claim Received: 01/19/2012

Claim Type: Retired Pay Adjustment
Appeal is Possible
Decision Notification Sent


Update- I just called Peggy this morning. They told me to disregard all the lingo from what I see on ebenifits. He says I have a pending payment(he mentioned my bank) for the same amount dpas told me. He said it the financial dept has it pending-should be any day now. Well, if that is true, which I am now having good thought, I can finally get my water leaks fix(all new plumbing in the back yard), pay the Irs, ect. I think the VA sends these out on either thursday's, or friday's.

Edited by COOL BREEZE, 04 April 2012 - 08:51 AM.


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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:29 AM

That might just be a routine remark. I added a date of birth to a dependent. It said no documents were required, then, the next day, i had a claim opened - freaked me out. A few days later it was "resolved" and said "appeal possible". I thought the same thing - what the hell would i be appealing? I think it's just part of their tracking system. Means more to va than to you. I hope. Hopefully youre at the bank right now....

-mike

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:33 AM

I also noticed on my decision letter from the va where they show the pay adjustments over the years, it says "retired pay witheld". I thought the same thing - what does this have to do with retirement pay? Maybe it means "retired; pay witheld"

Maybe im going over the edge too...

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:50 AM

I just spoke to knucklehead "Peggy" unbelievable!! My percentage was increased to 100%, so naturally I would like to have (and desperately need) the retro pay. I was told that my pay would be audited (which I already knew through this and other forums). If I am awarded retro pay (if?!!) then it is returned to the VA which will open another claim for them to process the pay. Really, what kind of system is that? I am so frustrated (like MANY others) that I cannot continue this post in fear that I will type a slew of words that should not be put in print.

Vented, and will be for the next few hours, days and weeks,
Donna

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:58 AM

Donna:

When did you get the letter from va that upgraded you to 100%. We'll put you on the time line.

-mike

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:09 AM

Mike,
I am ashamed to say it was only last week, which I know is too soon to be "bitchen." I am just trying to wrap my head around all of these time frames that make absolutely no sense, but cause so much anguish to those who are entitled to this compensation. Everything is electronic, not still written in stone with a chisel, yes there are alot of claims, but for those of us who are having financial hardships that does not help in paying the mortgage. I did not ask to pay my mothers medical and funeral expenses, it was my obligation as a daughter. I say that because I have been told that I should have been more financially responsible, without them knowing the full story. I am venting, so for now I will "shut up, color, and play more Angry Birds!"

Donna

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 11:02 AM

What days of the week does the VA normally pay the retro out. Seeing how I am supposedly now have an pending deposit by the VA for the claim which was closed yesterday. I am about to explode if this is true!!

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 11:36 AM

CONGRATS, DONNA! You have every right to complain. But, I would not start too early, as you may be postal by the time the VA gets around to paying you. It truly is a travesty to make veterans wait for their back pay. On one hand, I feel fortunate to have been granted IU and get 100 percent. On the other hand, I am out ten grand in expenditures that I would not have spent if they paid right away. I am waiting for retro since September 2011.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:10 PM

CONGRATS, DONNA! You have every right to complain. But, I would not start too early, as you may be postal by the time the VA gets around to paying you. It truly is a travesty to make veterans wait for their back pay. On one hand, I feel fortunate to have been granted IU and get 100 percent. On the other hand, I am out ten grand in expenditures that I would not have spent if they paid right away. I am waiting for retro since September 2011.


Irish 7, Thank you for the note. I know it is too early, but for the life of me, the frustration is at times overwhelming. We all wait for the "human review" of our claims, and when that hurdle is over, thinking that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, it turns out to be just another train! I can't imagine having to wait as long as you have, and as you said, it is a travesty. I have had alot of unexpected expenses that has drained all of my funds, and I thought that now I would finally be able to catch up and breath a bit easier, just not the case now.
Again, thank you for the note, Donna

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 01:43 PM

Just found out that nothing has been submitted to DFAS yet, so the clock does not start ticking until they receive the request to do the audit. Posted Image

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:43 PM

Cool:

Wasnt it the friday after the ninth?

Hopefully theyll mess up and get it this friday

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:46 PM

Donna:

Watch mypay first, your ras should change to show your new crdp rate 0%?

Then you should get a payment fairly quickly from dfas, assuming they owe you.

Then you have, what looks to be, about a three month wait.

You might get some kind of partial va payment. I still dont know why i received a 2800 payment, except that they were also catching up the cost of living increase in feb.

-mike

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

Thanks Mike, any and all information is appreciated. According to my "brown envelope" information they will owe me from 1 Jul 2011, until I guess hell freezes over. I have to say that while it is not as long as most, it is still needed. So many unplanned expenses, big cost, that I just need it catch up on my mortgage and breath with worry.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:18 AM

I got my envelope today-white with the entire amount that I am owed in the decision letter. Now I am awaiting for it to hit the bank. According to MRS Peggy, I have a pending bank deposit. Wonder when it get released. I think it takes at least 2 days before it gets sent out. It will be a long night.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:59 AM

Cool Breeze,
Congratulations, hopefully the deposit will be there SOON.

Donna

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:01 PM

Donna:

Watch mypay first, your ras should change to show your new crdp rate 0%?

Then you should get a payment fairly quickly from dfas, assuming they owe you.

Then you have, what looks to be, about a three month wait.

You might get some kind of partial va payment. I still dont know why i received a 2800 payment, except that they were also catching up the cost of living increase in feb.

-mike


I was told today that the Va will not be submitting files until mid April, as they only forward claims to DFAS once a month. No wonder they are so backed up, so now I will just sit back and wait, impatiently! Posted Image

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:31 PM

Donna:

Im not sure. I got my letter on 11 feb and on 14 mar (35 days), i got my dfas retro. But my ras was already updated with my new va/crdp amount. So with dfas youre likely to get an ras update first. And, as i said in my post, the never issued me that ras. On 21 march they created another ras which is now my monthly ras.

Youre BDD, if i remember. BDD is supposed to be expedited so i wouldnt be surprised if there are different time lines.

Hang in there. I think your key dates will be 30/35, 45, 60 and 90.

-mike

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:48 AM

Big surprise! My entire retro hit the bank at 11:30 pm at night. I went to bed early and woke up to fool around on the computer until when accounts normally get deposited after midnight. This journey is finally over-a double award from last year!!!

Good luck for the rest of you waiting for your retro. It took 3 days from the time my claim closed before it hit the bank-and not when it you would normally expect it!!

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 06:19 AM

Awesome, i was pretty sure you were close.

Glad it finally worked out!




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