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I received a phone call on 30 Jan from the San Antonio sub-office, of the Houston Regional Office. I was informed that they will approve an ILP for me. She went on to say that they must wait until they receive my Vocational rehabilation file from Georgia, before they can actually put anything in writing.

I already had one period of ILP in 2000 when the va paid for a e-machine computer and printer, and three intro to computer classes. I lived in NC back then. When I lived in Killeen Texas in 2005 I requested another period of ILP due to worsing medical issues and I was approved for a new ILP. Before my ILP was drafted and put in writing I moved to Augusta Georgia were for almost two years the va made all kinds of promises, but never deliverd any plain in writing, and I never received anything. The va indicated that I refused further counseling so they terminated the program... I answered how do you terminate something that was never put in writing...

So Now it looks like I will get a new program.. I am excited... but I requested the ILp on a whim after reading about Pete's ILP.

My needs have changed a lot since 2005 when I first wanted an ILP... Now I am not sure about what I should ask for .

I know the program is to help me become more independant in daily living.. but.. what does that really mean... considering I am on oxygen 24/7 and in a wheelchair due to a spinal and leg injury.

I would enjoy woodworking and I just had a new 10x12 shed built to use as a shop. I do need some new tools but I wonder if they will provide them or if they will say that the ILP if for something I have never done... Or will they deny something like woodworking because I am on oxygen.

I also wonder if they will provide a service dog, ( in 2005 the counselor in georgia said no dogs).

Does anyone have any Ideas as to how I can benefit from the program, or what I could ask for? I want to be prepared when I have my first meeting with the va counselor....

Wow, I have so may questions I don't know were to start.....

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So Now it looks like I will get a new program.. I am excited... but I requested the ILp on a whim after reading about Pete's ILP.

I also wonder if they will provide a service dog, ( in 2005 the counselor in georgia said no dogs).

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Teac,

I have no info or suggestions to post for your ILP but just wanted to say congrats about it

appearing to go thru

AND

here's a link for the journey tbird is going thru to obtain a service dog :

Hope this helps a vet.

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Up date....

On 16 Feb the voc rehab counselor called and requested that I send her a copy of my latest ratings, which I promply e-mailed to her.

Today she called me to ask me if I would attend an initial group orientation on 27 Mar at 11:15. I accepted the appointment and she indicated she was going to mail me a package and that I would need to fill out some forms prior to going to the orientation.

I requested the program in Jan so it seems that the va is moving a little faster than usual...

I am very excited about what may be possible. I have put togther a short list of items I sure could use..... but I really would be content if the ILP program just contained a few items. My short list is as follows.

1. Door Bell visual signal

2. Small Riding Lawn Mower (Craftsman 30”, Snapper 28”-30” or 33”, Bolen 38”)

3. Lawn sprinkler system

4. Tempur-Pedic Mattress

5. Lift Chair/recliner

6. Whole House HEPA dust collection system

7. Workshop dust collection system

8. Medic alert system connected to my security system

9. Service dog for hearing, & balance problems

I would be very happy with the hepa fiters, hearing assistance devices, and a small riding law mower, because It cost me $40.00 twice a month to have the lawn cut....

I would be extremely grateful for a service dog and think I would get out more if I had a service dog's assistance.

I am asking for these things to help make myback, hearing and breathing disabilities more bearable.

I will update the board after my orientation.

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You really need to have them visit you in your home. You can ask for stuff and the person who consults will write up a recommendation. I asked for remodeled bath which I got through another program but they recommended the tempurpedic bed and also a new central a/c . I got the bed but not the a/c at least so far. I don't know where I got this but it appears that they can spend up to 25,000 on each Veteran.

This program can work very well and can also be very frustrating. Good Luck I also got a low flow toilet and some grab bars for the shower.

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You really need to have them visit you in your home. You can ask for stuff and the person who consults will write up a recommendation. I asked for remodeled bath which I got through another program but they recommended the tempurpedic bed and also a new central a/c . I got the bed but not the a/c at least so far. I don't know where I got this but it appears that they can spend up to 25,000 on each Veteran.

This program can work very well and can also be very frustrating. Good Luck I also got a low flow toilet and some grab bars for the shower.

Well I will need to think about it before I let them in my home.

I don't want to let them in my home because the first thing they are going to say is I need a new bathroom, and widen doors etc because I use a wheelchair. I don't want to spend the money on these Items because in a few years we plan to sell out, and build our " retirement home".

The last time I tried to get a program all kinds of things were recommended, but when it came to them providing anything I got nothing except more promises and a lot of headaches. I re-applied after reading your comments, but at this point unless they prove otherwise I really don't expect much if anything from them.

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Well I will need to think about it before I let them in my home.

I don't want to let them in my home because the first thing they are going to say is I need a new bathroom, and widen doors etc because I use a wheelchair. I don't want to spend the money on these Items because in a few years we plan to sell out, and build our " retirement home".

The last time I tried to get a program all kinds of things were recommended, but when it came to them providing anything I got nothing except more promises and a lot of headaches. I re-applied after reading your comments, but at this point unless they prove otherwise I really don't expect much if anything from them.

Than tell them what you want per your list and see what happens. Can't hurt like I said they are doing better.

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I have my first voc rehab appointment in the am. I am going to have a bad night, always do when I have to deal with the va the next day... I have to attend the orientaton and watch the video before they even sit down to talk with me. I don't really know what to expect... will update you tomorrow as to how things go....

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They will also test you to see if you can work. Don't fret about it just something to endure and the film shows some things that ILP does so watch it carefully. The film is what I used to get mys stuff.

Good Luck

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Well what can I say... a waste of time..

First no video , just a slide presenation of what the purpose of voc rehab is, with one slide on the ILP. The you have this guy reading from the slides like adults can't read.... Then a woman from the Texas veteran commission speaks for about 15 minutes.. all in all 2.5 hours of waste and to make it worse.. 12 others besides myself and there are six seperate conversations going at once.. not a good place to be if you have a hearing problem.

But the real kicker.. when I finally went to speak to the counselor Ms. Pannell, the first thing she said is we can't do anything.......As God is my judge.... that is the first thing she said... then we talked for about 15 minutes, and I told her that I expected her to say this , but that she needed to try to do something before saying she can't.. then she tells me the first step is the home visit. But she really wants me to go through my PCP before she trys to get anything, I told her.. do the home study and lets see what happends... but that no isn't a word I understand so we will see .. what happends now.....

Since this is what I expected.... I am not disappointed yet....

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Ask your PCP to recommend you although this should not be necessary

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I am adding a listing of wed cites that the voc rehab folks gave me..

it contains information on job searches and cites for the disabled hope it helps anyone

vocrehablisting.PDF

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So I figure nothing ventured is nothing gained - I am going for it. I have tried since the beginning of the week to contact someone at Voc Rehab in Memphis, to find out where to send the filled out VA Form 28-1900. I finally got through to someone today, and found out that it has to be sent to the Nashville RO. There was no place on the form to indicate Independent Living Program, and the lady I spoke to said that I have to wait to hear from Nashville.

So from reading what others have gone through, I will talk to one of my providers as soon as I can about this and try to get their recommendation - I hope it is not difficult to get. There is a neat listing of what some other veterans were able to get on the VBN website.

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Ok so now I feel a screw job coming...

Today I received a letter that states:

We have received you claim for vocational rehabilitation under chaper 31.

An evaluation of all the issues surrounding you case will be completed to determine your entitlement to

vocational rehabilitation benefits.This evaluation is required of all applicants for vocational rehabilitations.

During this evaluation, you will be able to provide information which will help us to make a fair and equitable

decision on your claim.

If required, you will be notified by seperate letter of the need to meet with a VA Vocational Rehabilitaion and

counseling staff to explore your situtation further. At that time you many bring any available copies of school records, transcrips, and or test records with you.

Inclosed VA Form 4107 ( Your rights to appeal our decision)

Since I already attended a meeting on the 27th of Mar, this letter seems out of place. Maybe it is another

form letter, that they have to send, I don't know. I find it interesting that a VA Form 4107 was included in the letter, since no decision has been made. In fact at that meeting on 27Th Mar the counselor stated a home study would be done.... anyway I don't trust the va, and feel a shaft job coming.. but I hope I am wrong....

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I received a call from Voc-Rehab yesterday, less than a week after I had sent in my VA Form 28-1900. I was informed that I forgot to sign and date it - Oooooops! While I had the Voc-Rehab guy on the phone I explain a little about my situation, and that I was interested in ILP services. He told me to add it as a remark in section 15.B So I printed out my saved copy, signed it, and was able to get it in the mail yesterday.

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I received a call from Voc rehab, they scheduled a homestudy on 8 June at 1:PM.... what can I expect anyone know?

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VA Playing games again. today I received an appointment slip for the Polytrama rehab center. My first thought was what the F*** is this.... then I noticed the time for the appointment.. it is the same time that I was called for a homestudy appointmet.. or so I thought.

I called the number provided, identified my self and inquired about the appointment and I was told it was to do a consult concerning what adapted equipment I needed in my home.. I said that I thought that the appointment was for a homestudy.. she kindly told me oh we don't do homestudies anymore.. .she told me to call the voc rehab counselor...

First I told voc rehab I did not not want nor need my home to be remodeled... so they are waisting time and playing games, I called the rehab counselor but she did not answer the phone...

I plan on having a serious discussion with her, and then start writing letters, first to the local news, then senators, and congress critter, and anyone else I can think of..

I am not going to let the va screw me again, I sat in Augusta georgia for about two years and all I heard were promises,and got nothing, not this time... damn va why in hell do they tell you they have a program then screw every veteran who tries to use it?

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Until I had the home study I got zip from ILP. The study is a visit usually by someone helpful that looks at your needs and what could help you. I felt the same way but the lady they sent was very helpful and because of her I got some good stuff.

They come with a pretty positive attitude and try to write up something you need and or want as long as it fits in their guidelines. My visit got me a real nice tempurpedic bed that I could not afford and I also got shower put in and tub taken out.

Good Luck

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Until I had the home study I got zip from ILP. The study is a visit usually by someone helpful that looks at your needs and what could help you. I felt the same way but the lady they sent was very helpful and because of her I got some good stuff.

They come with a pretty positive attitude and try to write up something you need and or want as long as it fits in their guidelines. My visit got me a real nice tempurpedic bed that I could not afford and I also got shower put in and tub taken out.

Good Luck

I talked to my voc rehab counselor today, she told me that she wasn't aware that they are not coming out to the home anymore. She indicated that they used to contract out for the study, but now they have to use the va resources so that is why got the appointment at the polytrauma center. She went on to say without their input she couldn't do anything, she also said she would call me if she finds out anything new. So she has requested the appointment again. I told her I did not need or want any remodeling , I also told her I wasn't going to wit two years again and not get anything, She immediately said, she would do what she could, but that it really wasn't up to her... I really feel some cold cold steel coming my way,,, but lets wait and see...

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I met with the Voc Rehab Counselor (VRC) last week, and she flat out told me that ILP would only help with items that were recommended by Occupational Therapy, and that I needed to get an appointment with my PCP to get a referral to OT. In my brief 20 minute meeting with her, she said that she determined that my conditions are 'stable' and there was really nothing ILP could do for me. So I gave her a copy of VAOPGCPREC 34-97:

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In a precedent opinion, VAOPGCPREC 34-97, the VA Office of the General Counsel was presented with the question of whether 38 U.S.C.A. 3104(b) or any other statute or regulation either requires or precludes the VA from assisting a claimant in purchasing a computer and related materials for recreational activities. The opinion indicates that one of the express purposes of the Chapter 31 vocational rehabilitation program is to "provide for all services and assistance necessary to enable veterans with service-connected disabilities to achieve maximum independence in daily living . . . ." VAOPGCPREC 34-97, at 2, [citing 38 U.S.C.A. 3100]. The term "independence in daily living" means "the ability to a veteran, without the services of others or with a reduced level of the services of others, to live and function within such veteran's family and community."

Id. at 2, [citing 38 U.S.C.A. 3101(2)].

In short, the General Counsel held that the VA was not barred by law from rendering services or assistance that could be used for recreational activities. The test is whether the service may further the ability of the particular service member to become independent. VAOPGCPREC 34-97.

*****

and she blew it off by changing the subject. I returned her attention to it, and she said that ILP doesn't furnish anything for hobbies, no lawn mowers or fishing boats like some veterans have told her. I let it rest at that. So I asked her what happens after I get the OT appointment done, and she sighed and said she would open a case for me, but she wouldn't approve anything beyond OT items even after a home visit is done. So I left, knowing that I have a battle in front of me.

Since then I have received confirmation that my ILP case is open, I have a referral in for OT (just waiting for a date), and I called the VA's Director of Vocational Rehabilitation Services office (202) 461-9600 and spoken to one of the VRCs there for clarification. I was informed that the VRC was supposed to make the referral to OT themselves, and that VAOPGCPREC 34-97 is NOT to be ignored.

So I will jump through the VRC's hoops, until I get my home visit. Then I am going going to raise Cain if recommended items are not furnished.

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Took me four years and four Voc Reps. One was good the rest not worth the powder to blow up.

But I got more than I thought I could. There favorite tactic is sending you on quests that are not needed

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I met with the VA Occupation therapist on 8 June.

First he informed me that San Antonio does not do the In home evaluations because of a local directive and the way it was worded, he indicated they haven't done home visits for about three years, but that in the future they should start back. I responded that It would be nice if the damn VA provided the same exact service to all veterans in all areas, he agreed with me but of course he doesn't make the rules.

He told me that I did not need to go thru ILP to receive his services, that all they reqire is a referal from my Pripary care doctor. I am thinking great this is going to be a waste of time.

He told me that all the items I will receive thru him come from the prosthetic department or he will make a request to order some items if he thinks they are necessary to improve my standard of living.

He stated the local va will not give Tempur-Pedic mattress, he indicated the only bed I could get would be a Hospital bed.

He indicated the va does not give lift chairs out anymore, and haven't for a long time, but that if I had a recliner he would provide some kind of base that will raise it up so that I can get out of the chair.

He said he would get for me a dual tens unit and muscle stimulator unit to help manage my back pain.. ( big deal $100 and I got one from tricare )...

He is willing to get me a shower chair, so what it's plastic and wont fit in my 4x4 shower...($50.00)

he is willing to get me some kind of extender so that I can put my sox on, and another one to wipe my butt, when my back is so bad that I cannot twist, again so F**king what... another few dollars....

He is checking into getting me a new phone system to work with my hearing aids.. I asked for this.. but he made no promises..

He is checking on getting me a visual door bell ringer.. I asked for this but again no pronises.

He agrees that with my lung problems I needed a hepa filter, but he will not get a whole house filter system, just one to move from room to room, which I think is a waste...

He will recomend a small riding lawn mower, but he said it will not be provided, said I should just keep paying $100 a month for lawn service..

He refused a front lawn sprinkler system, but stated he would check on a programable robot type sprinkler system .. of course this serves no useful purpose if I still have to roll out on to the lawn to place a sprinkler and hose...

That it folks a big freaken joke.. VA makes me Puke everytime I think about them.

Bottom line, if a veteran doesn't need an ILP program to see this guy.. than it seems I am not getting an ILP..what a waste of time and effort... but then I expected no less

I have to say the counselor was a stand up guy, he respected me, listened to me and tried to offer advise, but overall it was still a waste of my time.....

will wait to speak to the ILP counselor, should be interested to see what she has to say

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The purpose I have for posting what I got is so that other Vets would know what is available to other Veterans. All the things he told you are things that he won't do and if you ask me he is not providing the service that is owed to you and other Veterans in SA. In fact may I go so far to say that he sucks at his job.

Anything you ask for and does not provide is appeal able and should be. The hearing aids for telephones should go through the people who do hearing aids not him. I got tempurpedic bed and I will comment that it has helped me a great deal with many sleep issues.

The prosthetic department can help with grants and that is not a bad thing either. Maybe you should ask your Social Worker at your VA clinic to do an evaluation on what would help you in your home and use it to appeal any lame decisions. Remember when they deny you only have thirty days to appeal.

Good Luck

My Voc Rehab started out on the same tract as yours.

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Man I can't believe it!

Today a package came from Patterson Medical and in it was a "hip replacement Kit" it consist of a claw to reach items, a shoe horn with long handle, a plastic cradle with rope and foam handles in which to place socks on then pull the sox's up and finally a foam rubber sponge with a long handle ( back sponge). what a bunch of garbage.. and a deal at $34.99.

Along with this was a packing slip that listed the following items to come in seperate shippments:

Bottom budy ( to wipe my ass, how gross) $39.95 wasted

Soapy soles 3 in 1 elite foot washer (for the shower) $14.95 wasted

Deluxe pedal exercise ( hand crank for table top) $230.00 more junk and waste

Stand easy chair lift (4 pieces of plastic to put under my recliner that raise the chiar 2 inches) more junk $49.95

Bariatic shower and commode chair $250.00 and in the trash it will go...

Finally a generic brand room air purifier $375.00 well this will go on ebay but its not for me....

The only thing I asked for here was a hepa filer system for the house....

$994.00 wasted and still no ILP I suspect they think this junk will make me happy, but it just pisses me off.

I think I am going to refuse all but the air purifier, and just say return to sender.. then I am going to let the ILP counselor know that this is not acceptable....

Man I am so angry my glasses have fogged up!.. Damn VA think they can crap all over us..

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Why not take it back to them and say that this does not help.

Good Luck

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Thanks, I've added Independent Living Program (ILP) to Ebenefits as things I need to avoid.

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