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#1 mountain tyme

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 09:13 PM

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Hello, I am new to this forum but I have a question about a year ago I filed a claim with the VA for service connect PTSD due to personal assualt during my time in the AF, I had been seeing a cilvian councler for about a year and she referred me a doctor to be tested for PTSD the test took quite a few hours and the result was PTSD and a GAF of 36 both my councler and the doctor that did the testing both concured that they felt very strongly it was serviced connected due to the events that occured durning my military committment...I decided to file a claim with the VA with the help of a Veteran organization needless to say durning the process I have had 4 different reps because they seemed to find other jobs and left our small town...my claim was denied twice and finally the VA rep. sent a letter requesting I have a face to face review or something like that..this is all greek to me...so the Va rep. received a call after I submitted my last set of evidence that I found in a trunk in the attic of the Artical 15 that my Supervisor received and also made copies of the original EEOC compliant I filed for sexual harrasement which resulted in him also receiving a letter of rep. in the folder were also 6 statements from members that worked in the same area as I...to make a long story short...after those papers were reviewed the VA rep. received a phone call asking if I would consent to a C and P exam which I did consent to...I had the exam in Aug 06 and the Doctor who performed the examination after about 3 hours turned and told me that he felt that I had endured enough stress and that there were other exams he could do but felt that there was no need...and that he was going to rate me low...He asked me if I was working and I told him no that I had been on SSd since 2002 do to ashma and anixiey disorder...I told him do to my health insurace I can only have 8 sessions of counceling per year...and he told me that I need to go more often and that was the end of that and I left he gave me his card...now the question how long will it take to find out if I receive service connected so I can go for treatment for my condition...if I go up to the VA hospital which is 2 1/2 hours from my home the VA hospital said they would have to charge my health insurance unless it is service connected...heck if I only have 8 sessions per year I sure in the heck not going to drive all that way with the cost of gas....so anyone have any ideal how long it takes for them to make a decision when I called that toll free number I talked to a VA guy and he said that my packet was sent to the review board on Oct 24th, 2006. Thank You for your time I didn't mean to make this question so long.

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 09:21 PM

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Did you send in your stressor letter? Did the VA accept your stressor? You got your C&P exam. I think you should be pretty close to a decision. Are you employable? If not ask for TDIU. Keep posting and we will help you do you NOD if you are denied or low balled on the PTSD. If it was a combat situation it would be easier, but some of our combat PTSD vets have a hard time as well and it is no cake walk.

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 09:31 PM

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Did you send in your stressor letter? Did the VA accept your stressor? You got your C&P exam. I think you should be pretty close to a decision. Are you employable? If not ask for TDIU. Keep posting and we will help you do you NOD if you are denied or low balled on the PTSD. If it was a combat situation it would be easier, but some of our combat PTSD vets have a hard time as well and it is no cake walk.


What happened when I called the Va for the first time I was a bit overwhelmed and was directed to talk to a Women Veteran advisor...I was very emotional and could not talk about what happened to me so she asked me to send her a letter about what happened and she would get back with me ....at that time I had not gone to the VA service rep. so I never did a formal stressor letter just kept sending in papers as I found them...this happened like 27 years ago...and I just tuned 18 at the time...there was a congressional investigation into the matter and I sent all them letters into the VA...then after I finally went to the VA service lady in town she helped me put everything in order...after she left I came across other evidence of events that took place along with newspapers related to the case from back then...It is very hard for me I lost alot over the events that took place...and I would wish this on no one...it is just a personal hell..

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Posted 30 November 2006 - 09:36 PM

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Did you send in your stressor letter? Did the VA accept your stressor? You got your C&P exam. I think you should be pretty close to a decision. Are you employable? If not ask for TDIU. Keep posting and we will help you do you NOD if you are denied or low balled on the PTSD. If it was a combat situation it would be easier, but some of our combat PTSD vets have a hard time as well and it is no cake walk.


Hummm I didn't ask for TDIU was I suppose to? no one asked me what I wanted I thought they are suppose to determine if I am eligiable for that...they know I am on SSD and can't work...due to anixity and ashma caused by stress...

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 03:16 AM

Dear mountain tyme, you came to the right place for information, people in this board are very caring and they will help as much as they can. Welcome

Sorry you had to endure what you went through. You have a very strong case, first, you have diagnosis of PTSD, second, you have a very low GAF score of 36, third, you have a link that service connect you to service, forth, you have enough evidence to back up your claim, fifth, you currently are on SSD that shows you are totally and permanently disable and unemployable.

When you send evidence to the VA never send the originals, but copies and do it via certified mail, so you have the receip/prove of what ever you send.

you said, that you were twice denied before, let us know the reasons for the denials, did you file anotice of disagreement (NOD) on both of the denials. ( My personal opinion, I dont know how the VA could denied your claim ).

Did you requested a copy of your C/P, if you didn`t requested inmediatelly.

If you are in need of counseling because of a personal assault you do not need to be service connected to receive it, if you have the evidence that this happened to you take it to the VA and talk to a counselor, and because you are so far away from the VA hospital request a doctor closer to your home.
Hope this helps Rigo

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 12:08 PM

Dear mountain tyme, you came to the right place for information, people in this board are very caring and they will help as much as they can. Welcome

Sorry you had to endure what you went through. You have a very strong case, first, you have diagnosis of PTSD, second, you have a very low GAF score of 36, third, you have a link that service connect you to service, forth, you have enough evidence to back up your claim, fifth, you currently are on SSD that shows you are totally and permanently disable and unemployable.

When you send evidence to the VA never send the originals, but copies and do it via certified mail, so you have the receip/prove of what ever you send.

you said, that you were twice denied before, let us know the reasons for the denials, did you file anotice of disagreement (NOD) on both of the denials. ( My personal opinion, I dont know how the VA could denied your claim ).

Did you requested a copy of your C/P, if you didn`t requested inmediatelly.

If you are in need of counseling because of a personal assault you do not need to be service connected to receive it, if you have the evidence that this happened to you take it to the VA and talk to a counselor, and because you are so far away from the VA hospital request a doctor closer to your home.
Hope this helps Rigo


Good Morning Rigo,
When I first was Diagonoised with PTSD, I did not know anything about the working of the VA which was over a year ago...I was given the VA 800 # to call to find out how to put in a claim it was hard because I do not trust the military system (as far as my case goes do to the events that occured to me back in the 70's there was quite a bit of cover-ups needless to say) and I relate Military and VA are the same in my mind...so when I finally called it was quite an emotional door opener...I talked to a very nice women and she told me it might be easier to just go ahead and send her a letter describing what happened to the best of my abilities...which I did....after she received the letter I was sent a letter with some forms on it which I filled out...at the time I was ignorant and had not talked to anyone regarding my situlation and a few weeks later I received a letter from the VA that denied my claim because they said that I did not send any proof that a personal assualt took place or that I had PTSD...now that was back in Aug 05, that is when My Mom told me to go the a VA service officer in town to get some help in filling my claim...they sent a letter of disagreement and he sent my doctor statements and records...in Dec. o5 I received another denial letter...because I had no proof of a personal attack/assult took place while in the military...so I went back to the VA service center...and the guy who was there before had left and a new person was assigned to the office..he read the letter and said without proof it would be hard to win..I told him that my supervisor received an artical 15, that I had filed an EEoc complaint with social actions that there was a congressional investigation ect ect...and that I had most of the orignal paperwork and some newspapers from 78...since no one told me I was suppose to send anything like that I didn't I just sent a timeline of events...he told me to gather up what I had so I went up into the Attic and went through my trunk and he made copies of everything...and sent in another letter NOD is what it was...and after receiving that packet is when I received a call from the VA service rep. asking if I would consent to a C and P exam which I did...in Sept 06 like I said in my other post the doctor said that he was going to rate me low...but I have not seen a copy of the c and p it is only what the doctor said...
what I am not sure of...is how they determine the rating system...since I filed for PTSD will the VA go ahead and say...well since she is already on SSd due to anixiety and ashma and not PTSD will the VA determine what percent of the PTSD has effected my life or contributed to my disability...and give me like 20%...or since I can not work due to other factors just go ahead and say well we will rate her 100% very confusing...I just want help...not all this stress...for years I was doing well...then about 8 years ago due to my husbands job he was transfered to the town where the base is where the attacks took place...I have never been the same since...so we have decided to move away as soon as we can...things will work out as they should...most of what happened in my case when I filed is that I did not seek information regarding the process and I am still a bit out there as to what the next step is...I received this site from the VA service rep I met she is a women and she suggested it to me...I am glad I decided to check it out..I will keep you posted...life in such an adventure is it not.

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 01:38 PM

MT,
Welcome to hadit.
VA is telling you BS -- MST, Military Sexual Trauma -- You are entitled to full treatment and any medications on a regular and recurring basis as needed, solely due to letting VA know this this happened. You DO NOT have to be SC for this prior to receiving treatment and care and there is NO CHARGE ! ! Also, you can receive treatment at your nearest Vet Center, for this and anything else related to it such as your PTSD, problems with life, family interactions, work etc...
Everything this effects in your life. Treatment for this disability has already been mandated by congress.
Also, for personal assault (MST) VA is supposed to send you a different form to fill out for your PTSD claim
not the same form at all as per say a combat vet.
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Posted 01 December 2006 - 04:10 PM

MT,

I'm happy you found Hadit. You are getting, awwsome advise. The people here will truly help you get through this and the paperwork as well. This is the Hadit Fambly, and we do cover each others back. Thank you for your service. Glad your here.

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Posted 01 December 2006 - 04:38 PM

Welcome aboard veteran-

From what I read of your situation -you have excellent evidence-

A SC claim usually needs current diagnosed disability, inservice event or injury that caused the disability ,and proof of the inservice event. You have all that.

Although the SSD said you have an anxiety disorder, PTSD IS an anxiety disorder.
I feel those SSD records can help your claim.

"talked to a VA guy and he said that my packet was sent to the review board on Oct 24th, 2006."
He might have meant the rating board or maybe the initial predetermination team.

I strongly suggest that you file out the attached TDIU form-

Under Remarks you can expand on your claim for TDIU- tell them you get SSD (even though this is covered by one of the questions on the form I think it helps to make sure they know this)
and I assume that your anxiety is due to the trauma of this terrible incident-tell them that too-
I believe that the SSD guidelines specifically say PTSD is under anxiety disorders.
and tell them of any side affects from any meds you take for anxiety that render you unemployable.

What I am not sure of is whether this will hold up the claim or not-by filing it now but then again it will establish the earliest effective date for total service connection.

I am glad the vet rep told you about us-
I gave my vet reps many hadit business cards and they said they would give them to vets but I dont know if they did-
You went through alot ! You should be compensated.

If you file the TDIU form now,send a copy to your vet rep- if they question that you have no SC yet,and shouldn't ask for TDIU at this point ---let me know here and they can contact me. Or Vice versa-

A veteran does not need any VA SC rating to be considered for TDIU -especially with the evidence you have.

You can request a copy of the C & P results by writing to the Records Access Officer of the VAMC that gave it to you.

I regret what you went through- but I am glad you found us here.

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Posted 02 December 2006 - 04:10 AM

Dear mountain tyme, like Berta, Carlie and Jangrin stated, you should request TDIU, and you should not wait to file this claim until the VA sends you the application form. Yoy can file an informal claim by simply sending the VA a letter stating that you wished to be considered for TDIU benefits and ask the VA to send all appropriate forms so that the claim could be perfected.

If you are in need of counseling, go to the VA with the evidence and talk to a counselor and the VA will give you all the help that you need (stipulated by Congress)

SSD evidence will enhance your claim for PTSD.

Like you stated the VA is your worst enemy, and the best way to fight them is becoming your own advocate and learn as much as you can about their rules and regulations.

In March 2002, the VA amended its PTSD regulation, 38 C.F.R. 3.304(f), to add a new section for PTSD claims based on in-service personal assault. The new regulation corporates earlier court decisions and existing Manual21-1 provision. Significantly, it states that the VA will not deny a claim for PTSD based on personal assault without first telling the veteran that evidence other than that found in service records can be submitted and allowing the veteran the opportunity to submit such evidence. It also describes some types of evidence that can be used to support a PTSD claim based on a personal assault.

Mountain Tyme, if the VA didn`t inform you of the above law in your 2 previous denials, you probably can request a re-evaluation or include this information in your NOD.

I understand that what you are doing is very hard to do, but, you need to be compensated for your suffering, be strong, and may god bless. Rigo

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 08:10 AM

Welcome aboard veteran-

From what I read of your situation -you have excellent evidence-

A SC claim usually needs current diagnosed disability, inservice event or injury that caused the disability ,and proof of the inservice event. You have all that.

Although the SSD said you have an anxiety disorder, PTSD IS an anxiety disorder.
I feel those SSD records can help your claim.

"talked to a VA guy and he said that my packet was sent to the review board on Oct 24th, 2006."
He might have meant the rating board or maybe the initial predetermination team.

I strongly suggest that you file out the attached TDIU form-

Under Remarks you can expand on your claim for TDIU- tell them you get SSD (even though this is covered by one of the questions on the form I think it helps to make sure they know this)
and I assume that your anxiety is due to the trauma of this terrible incident-tell them that too-
I believe that the SSD guidelines specifically say PTSD is under anxiety disorders.
and tell them of any side affects from any meds you take for anxiety that render you unemployable.

What I am not sure of is whether this will hold up the claim or not-by filing it now but then again it will establish the earliest effective date for total service connection.

I am glad the vet rep told you about us-
I gave my vet reps many hadit business cards and they said they would give them to vets but I dont know if they did-
You went through alot ! You should be compensated.

If you file the TDIU form now,send a copy to your vet rep- if they question that you have no SC yet,and shouldn't ask for TDIU at this point ---let me know here and they can contact me. Or Vice versa-

A veteran does not need any VA SC rating to be considered for TDIU -especially with the evidence you have.

You can request a copy of the C & P results by writing to the Records Access Officer of the VAMC that gave it to you.

I regret what you went through- but I am glad you found us here.

Hello,
First I would like to thank everyone for all the information it gave me some direction...
I went to the site you sent me to with the forms...I never seen those before...also I never filled out a VA form from the VA in regards to PTSD...I made copies of everything I sent to the VA and the VA reps (4 in all due to the change over in our local office) gave me copies of the NOD (I have 2 of them) other then the letters from the VA's 2 letters of denial that is all the offical papers I have..now when I finally was asked to come in for a C and P exam the doctor had a computer program and typed in information and checked yes or no ect...but I did not receive a copy of that nor was I asked to sign anything...it was a very long exam and stressfull questions...I don't even recall any one from the VA nor any of the VA reps. that have helped me through this process ask me what I wanted as far as compensation goes...I just had hoped that the VA could have helped me with my councleling fees...because I needed to go more then what SSD would cover along with my other health insurance....I did tell the VA doctor that I wanted to go to counceling but it needed to be close to where I live because I fall asleep due to my medicine...I have Faith in God that this will all work out as it should...it's just frustrating learning about how the VA works...there system is not very user friendly if you ask me...but I suppose like everything else there are some who will take advantage of the system and some that really need to take advantage of the system and don't because of what I am finding out is a maze of confusion...It is a shame that an orginazation that has been set up to help all the vets that served our country and there families...that when a VEt calls that they don't send them a list of Veteran service ORganizations that can help them start the paperwork...and advise them to seek help before sending information in to make sure all there t are crossed and "i" are dotted...this would save so much time...and they need MORE WOMEN Veteran reps...there has to be a better way for the system to get the care out there that the vets need...my heart goes out to all you guys that need the help and can't get it because you went in on the wrong day...
frustrating needless to say..
take care and again thank you for the web site and I will keep you posted I am going down to the VA office in town tomorrow to see what I can find out...(hummm it will be just my luck there will be someone new)

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 02:26 AM

Dear mountain tyme, keep us inform, specially when you receive the C/P report, and if you have any questios, just let us know. Good luck Rigo