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hi all

just finished updating the definitons page. it use to be called Acronymns but we found Definitons seems to work better. check it out http://www.hadit.com/definitions.html and let me know what you think.

suggestions welcome

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I'm just a newcomer here but am very grateful for this place. Without it, the people here, I would have blown my fuse before this.

We are a bunch of largely stressed, frequently medicated, individuals dealing with often intensely personal, emotionally charged issues with a desperately needed yet adversarial institution organized so as to thwart us at every turn (except on very rare occasion or so it seems). We will vent, can't not.

The ability of the moderators to ride herd on such a disparate group, to know when somebody is just blowing steam, whether to, when, and how much to rein 'em, or when somebody is just being obnoxious and needs to be dealt with is remarkable. Such choices and decisions are a tough call.

None of it is designed to make you popular or win you many friends and can alienate you from some you have. I too am a moderator on another site with fairly strict rules of conduct, 'G' rating at all times, and it can be rough. But the result is a better place suited to the wants and needs of the bulk of those who stay and participate. It also makes for a much more effecient means of sharing and disseminating information when there is no fear of being flamed for sharing a bit of knowledge or an opinion.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, that this is just such a place, and thank you, all of you T-bird, moderators, and members for it. :D

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The Moderators are in agreement and if you post political links or observations the post will be unapproved and if it is inflammatory for this Board you can be suspended for a cool down period.

Inflammatory for this Board is partisan either Democrat or Republican.

Go somewhere else for politics.

The politics of VA are the only exception.

There seems to be a few Members who are trying to push each other into a flame war and this will not be tolerated.

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I respect your motives, but I have doubts that this will be applied equally and justly.

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I respect your motives, but I have doubts that this will be applied equally and justly.

Zero tolerence.

carlie

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zero tolerance

tbird

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It is getting harder and harder to distinguish what content is acceptable.

I can only assume this warning was brought about by recent posts about a VA document as they were closed and deleted for political comments. Could be wrong. I didn't complain either way.

However, the discussion, even with it's political ties, was a VA issue. Three national VSO's made public comments on the issue. It was directly about VA policy and procedure.

Not trying to be a smart a**, but in this case, inflammatory seemed to mean 'a subject not everyone agrees with'.

No disrespect to anyone or the decisions of the moderators. Just trying to point out that some VA issues are deemed too political and the "exception" to allow them is overridden if someone complains.

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I am going to be real blunt.

If it isn't hard core related to veterans benefits and it even smells political

it will be gone.

If someone comes on and post,

Oh I think health reform will be good for veterans - it's gone.

or

Oh I think health care reform is going to be bad for veterans - it's gone.

At this point has it not been made clear, zero tolerence, regardless of who posts it.

So, if your post - anyone's post just disappears, don't start pissing and moaning

as we won't be putting out nice little PM's anymore about why your post has disappeared.

NO Hadit is NOT a democracy - Tbird is sick of it.

I'm sure there are some members here that remember this board getting shut down for awhile,

in the past - no one here want's that.

It is no longer even open for discussion as censorship.

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I have those too.

I lived with my family on TI from 1984-1988 while stationed onboard USS CARL VINSON. We used to go crabbing off the piers on TI and ate all those delicious Dungeness crabs...or so I thought. Around that same time, I was seen at the ship's medical office for perianal abscesses...and I have continued to be plagued by this same problem that I was hospitalized twice at the VA Menlo Park in 2008. I didn't think nothing of it or maybe the cause of it until I read your post. Thanks for the helpful info.

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I am a moderator on a site with the same prohibitions. Though not Veteran related, politics does affect us too. That being the case, it can sometimes be difficult to discern what is "politics" and what is "site related." That leaves "zero tolerance" the only truly practicable solution.

:... but I have doubts that this will be applied equally and justly."

Decisions have to be made and action taken by fallible humans. There will be differing opinions as to what may be "political" or not. In this situation, only one (set) of opinions count- the owner's and her appointees. No. It will not always be 'just or equal.'

But what is to be hurt more than our feelings if I/you are the poster? None of the information so posted will be secret or so desperately needed that any will suffer immediately for lack of it. In all probability, all will come by the info through other shared sources, VAWatchdog, Veteran service org. magazines, the "news"... I would suppose if somebody deemed some piece of information that important it just had to be posted, they could submit it to the owner or a moderator for consideration before posting?

Believe me. I have intensely strong feelings over the political scenario playing out today. But desperately needing the aid and camaraderie of this site makes keeping those opinions to myself generally manageable.

Finally, we members, as guests in this house, must accept and abide by the house rules (and we all agreed to do so when we registered) or expect to be asked to depart. The value of this site is far too great to muddle it in angry discussion over the machinations of politicians. None of 'em have our interests at heart anyway. We have to stick together.

Nuff said.

Soldier on y'all.

Jim

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Jayg:

I appreciate your thoughts and your support of Tbird and the Moderators and for the most part I agree. However, the real point is that Tbirds experience has shown over time that political arguments cause disruption and loss of focus on the mission of helping Veterans and their family win claims.

There have been attempts to allow politics but over time the same problem emerges with people getting mad and even some leaving or in some cases being banned.

As far as being fair an equal there is more to it than taking a scale and making a decision on the facts. As a Moderator I take into account the History of the Member and past contributions to help.

For some reason this Board has attracted from day one people who want to disrupt and cause problems.I think that I can speak for all the Moderators that we are going to try our best to be fair but if it is political sounding to us we are going to do something.

As always if the politics involves the VA or Veterans we are going to leave room for a civilized discussion.

I left the Universal Health Care and current plans for covering all Americans open as I think that is something Veterans need to discuss and learn.

If you are mad at someone or something please leave it off this Board. If you are mad cause the VA is doing or not doing something lets discuss it. Thousands of people access this Board so consider your post to be like having people at your home and use your good manners and all will be ok.

I don't know for sure but I think that Hadit has helped 100's maybe 1000's win their claim.If you disagree with someone on this Board be polite and state a case with something to back you up.

My struggle with VA changed me quite a bit and I know very well what a hard time people go through to win their claims and I have empathy.

So its really pretty simple if you want to post and its about a Republican or Democrat sob if its something that directly affects Veterans its ok we need to know. If its about the bailout or stimulus payments the only discussion on that is when do we get the checks. If its about Sen Fleabag is a communist its going to be deleted and you could end up suspended for a day or two.If that makes you mad so be it. If you leave and were not banned you will always be welcome back.I am speaking in general to the entire Board and not directly to you Jayg.

As a Moderator I think that you can appreciate how much time and effort foes on behind the scenes and I hope that all can recognize what a fantastic site Tbird has developed over the years. This is a one stop wonder for Veterans who have Hadit.

Respect Tbirds wishes all of us our guests and everything will be fine. If you want to be political AOL is free and they have hundreds of rooms to chat about politics.

Thanks to all who contribute their experience and support Veterans on this wonderful and magic place on the internet where you can ask the questions you are afraid to ask the VA and get answers.

Pete

100% Nov 1993

Social Security Sep 1991

SMC S Award Nov 2007

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when i first joined hadit my hand was called on political comments ,and i kinda got resentful at first.

and after being on a while i began to understand why the rule was in place . politics is a whole world of its own and could knock out all the discussions about what tbird set this forum up for.

politics plays a role in the va administration ,and we should keep it focused on those political parts that affect the va and us as veterans.

i really would like to let some steam out on my political observations ,but i guess it being so hot a topic it is hard to find a forum that is not one sided on political issues.

i for one would like for any moderater to feel free to delete me and call my hand if i stray. this is such a good site i would croak if something balled it up as stupid as politics.

i havent been keeping up with the posts ,but when my hand was called early when i joined ,i had a choice to leave or go by the rules,and i decided to go by the rules.

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There are 156,000 post on this forum. There are 1500 members and growing. There are many more Vets, as well as active military persons, who use this site than can be imagined.

To police every post is almost impossible. That is the job that the moderators have on Hadit. Hadit is the only site that brings Vets together rather than splitting them up. Divisive issues destroy purpose.

It just doesn't make any sense about who would want to screw up Hadit. Who would want to disrupt Hadits purpose and why? I appreciate all that Hadit moderators do.

This is my opinion.

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Believe it or not we actually have had distractors here with just that purpose. They would machine gun post and do anything to disrupt the board.

Some are very reslilant and keep returning as other members.

I have a guess of who is planting these folks, but we have survived and get stronger every day.

It is also imparative that we remain focused on the mission at hand.

Politics and Religion have and will always devide the masses as it has been proven time and time again.

J

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I for one have no, none, zilch problem with any or all of my posts being squashed by a moderator. Organization, structure, and rules----I accept that. I agree to abide as best as possible. Heck, I am just on here for help and to help if needed. Never really wanted to argue politics or religion. I signed on with Hadit because of my interest in VA bene's and VA medical care....cause there are some very knowledgeable people on board. All the experts in politics and religion, I can talk to any time at my local VFW. I'm just a refried Republican trying to be a good Christian.......Whoooops!!Gotta watch that.

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Have read and agree.

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Hadit is the only site that brings Vets together rather than splitting them up. Divisive issues destroy purpose.

Here, here... in total agreement.

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I left the Universal Health Care and current plans for covering all Americans open as I think that is something Veterans need to discuss and learn.

This is my beef, exactly. This is the most divisive topic in existence today. If I were to post facts about this topic, bit just numerical and mathematical ones, then it would be considered politics. If I posted factual information, with links, about the corruption involved in this legislation, then it would be politics and deleted. If someone posts about how it will "feel good" to have aunt mary finally covered, well then that would be a fine post.

Like I said previously, if it is a post that is supportive of a particular side, then it is fine. God help you if it supports the other side, or even the independent side. I tried my best not to believe this for a long time, but it's hard to ignore something that I've seen time after time. Either delete them all, universal health care included, or create a password protected forum where only big boys and girls that have thick skin can go in to play.

Sorry for my rant, but I am sick of it in my everyday life and I am sick of it here. Something is about to snap, and I think it may be me...

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I'd like to use some quote's from this thread to make a point. Please keep in mind, I am not picking on anyone, nor actually disagreeing with Hadit rules. Just trying to make the observation that some subjects, political and VA, are in the gray area for discussion on the board.

From me "It is getting harder and harder to distinguish what content is acceptable."

From Carlie "Oh I think health reform will be good for veterans - it's gone.

or

Oh I think health care reform is going to be bad for veterans - it's gone."

From Pete53 "I left the Universal Health Care and current plans for covering all Americans open as I think that is something Veterans need to discuss and learn."

I think that should make some kind of point. I want to stress that I do not disagree with posts being closed and deleted. I do suggest that this happens to non political posts as well. A recent one that comes to mind had to do with a 'news' story about the VA going after a certain group of veterans. There was division on the board wether or not it belonged on Hadit. It was closed. It was not political.

The point? I think it would be more accurate and easier to understand if the board policy was to close and or delete VA subjects, political or not that BECOME inflamatory. That is what usually happens anyway and rightfully so. It is very difficult to know which subjects this will be at all times. All subjects should be VA related of course.

I know the moderaters have a very difficult job and I'd like to make it easier by not having these subjects come up at all, but I don't find that to be possible. It's very difficult to have a "zero tolerance"(quote=Pete53, Carlie, Tbird) policy and a disscrepancy as in the quotes above. These closed and deleted posts were all VA related subjects. The moderaters did the right thing in closing them once harsh words were being used.

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There is a huge gray area on what's considered political.

Unless your discussing one particular claim then even discussing Veterans Benefits is political if you want to look at the big picture.

The VA is wrapped in politics just as much as who's gonna be elected to Congress.

As long as the money for our benefits comes from the distributing source we all know as our Government then political discussion is at hand.

Limited discussion on how to correctly and ethically obtain benefits for those that deserve them is what this site is all about. I call it 'GIVING BACK."

DH

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More of my opinion:

Jeez, I said we that Hadit has 1500 members. I was off just a little. I re-checked membership and Hadit has 4,637 members as of today. That is huge growth considering the boards evolution. Seems like Hadit and its moderators have been doing something right to have this kind of growth. The most people I managed was 130.

Can you just imagine 4,637 different opinions in each post. It is not hard to see how different opinions can cause members to stray from the purpose Hadit is intended for by its owner. It can even become an uncontrolled free-for-all mess without moderation.

I can see that some are saying that moderation is one-sided. I don't think that this one-sidedness is true. Even an insinuation that the moderators are one-sided is an insult to further argue a fruitless point that also insults moderators sensibilities. Who would want to hurt these selfless workhorses?

Some veterans could be afraid that their VAMC's are in jeopardy because of opposing health care systems changes. None of us know anything about what will happen to our VAMC's, in the future, so it is all speculation.

In support of Pete's comment about the Veterans side of health care, somehow this needs to be discussed to alleviate Veterans fears of losing what we already have.

I even have thoughts of the VAMC's becoming over-run with other countries peoples or other problems that will diminish the value of our VAMC's. This is a legitimate issue concerning Veterans.

It is a fine line to keep this out of politics, but older members should blend this with Hadit's purpose and their common sense to keep it as rational as possible and not take advantage of political moments.

We can all see that moderating 4,637 people, can be a difficult thankless job, that is without pay. More members are on the way everyday. I think that this post is in equipoise and the benefit of the doubt should go to the Veteran Hadit moderators.

I don't mean to give the impression that I am stepping on anyones toes. I am a nobody. I do appreciate everything that has been said in this post, by smarter people than me, but I agree with the moderators.

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Define Ironic: A thread about "no politics" has turned into an argument about what is/is not considered political. jmho.

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I may not be able to define a political post, but I know it when I see it.

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Inflammatory for this Board is partisan either Democrat or Republican.

So does this equally apply to those that are partisan to being independent... :o

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It covers all politics.

There is no need to keep this thread open.

Please everyone adhere to this rule and just stop

making political topics and threads - it's really quite simple.

carlie

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